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petejamieson@bigpond.com
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Posts : 21
Location : Sydney Engine change
Hello everyone,
new to the group, just picked up a 76' CF, I beleive. It had a Holden 186 engine in it which is a bit old, I have a 202 which I want to put in. Does anyone know the best way to do this, ie. through the front or out from under. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers!
petejamieson
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12 May 2004 @ 02:57
conrad
Member
Posts : 115
Location : newcastle
how i did it
the easiest way seems to be to unbolt the crossmember,
lift up the body (rotating about rear wheels)
then wheeling out the engine/crossmember/gearbox all in one go.
u can either make up a trolley to hold the thing level. or the easier way seems to be to put a trolley jack under the rear of the gearbox
to easy, dont forget your vitamins to help lift the body
12 May 2004 @ 03:31
Nigzy
Member
Posts : 54
Location : goldfields,west oz
engine removal
How much is involved with removal of the Crossmember??How many bolts,Is it easy to get to them etc...
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12 May 2004 @ 19:21
conrad
Member
Posts : 115
Location : newcastle
all this thinking, my brain hurts
ummm,
there are guys here that have done hundreds of these, ive done it twice so i might be making things up/ missing things.
>2 bolts each side above the wheels (i think they were for the actual crossmember.
>there are two long threaded rods (one each side, i think theyre called control arms) that need to be undone at the wheel end. these are a bitch later on since u have to hold them out of the way while u lift up the body.
>i had my steering column undone already, but u would probably need to undo that.
>brake lines probably need to be drained and undone from the calipers
>a good idea to drain out most of the tranny fluid, and the forward end of the driveshaft needs to come out of the gearbox (undo the yoke?
)
>the gear shifter would have to go, as would the speedo cable.
>any wires that go to the battery or the dash
>fuel line
>mine didnt have one, but the heater hoses need to go. so do the radiator hoses.
>tranny cooler/oil cooler lines if you have them
how did i go? did i miss anything.
basically what i did was rig up a block and tackle to the beams of the shed, made up a brace out of rhs and put it under the chassis rails at the front of the engine bay. took the weight of the suspension, undid stuff till the crossmember was free, then lifted the beddie up as far as we could. dont forget to chock the back wheels!!
13 May 2004 @ 00:44
petejamieson@bigpond.com
Member
Posts : 21
Location : Sydney Engine change
Thanks for the info Conrad.
Have checked a few things out and it seems that this is the way to go ie lift the front etc.
Will be doing it next week, after i've cleaned the 202 up and given it a lick of paint. I'll post a bit of a description of how things go when done.
Cheers
Pete
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13 May 2004 @ 01:39
conrad
Member
Posts : 115
Location : newcastle
cheater
no worries,
should be a piece of p**s switching a 186 for a 202, should just bolt straight up.
bloody cheater, or maybe i just deliberately make things hard for myself
while we're on the topic, do u want a nice fibreglass engine cowl to go over your shiny new 202? anyone?
13 May 2004 @ 01:43
petejamieson@bigpond.com
Member
Posts : 21
Location : Sydney engine cowl?
Whats an engine cowl?
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13 May 2004 @ 08:25
conrad
Member
Posts : 115
Location : newcastle
moo!!
no not an engine COW
an engine coow-l.
its an engine cover, um. the thingy that stops the engine being a cupholder while on long trips.
the thingy in the footwell.
sorry, i have a habit of making up my own words for things. is it actually called an engine cowl?
i dunno.
but yeah. its the large engine cover in the cabin.
i had to cut the bejesus outta my floor so its no good to me now. it was over the top of a 202 though.
i email u a pic if u want.
14 May 2004 @ 00:29
JASON
Member
Posts : 48
Location : Semaphore S.A.
could be a engine helmet?
or a thingyma whatsyacall it that covers the dooflakcy motorbittybit.
he he he we could go on all day couldnt we.
I call it an engine cover.
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CHEERS JASON
14 May 2004 @ 05:06
Gavin Gregg
Member
Posts : 43
Location : West Hindmarsh SA.
thats dam funny,
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14 May 2004 @ 10:52
Nigzy
Member
Posts : 54
Location : goldfields,west oz
engine cowl,cover,doohicky thingamajig
speaking of engine covers,anyone make one with cup holders moulded in,lol..just wondering
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19 May 2004 @ 00:03
Nigzy
Member
Posts : 54
Location : goldfields,west oz
more engine cover???
sound-proofing wise,does a fibre-glass cover cut down noise,or should i stick with the steel one??
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19 May 2004 @ 00:05
conrad
Member
Posts : 115
Location : newcastle
noise, WHAT NOISE??
um i have never had a steel cover.
but the fibreglass one made the sounds from the engine bay go much quieter (new word bonus!!)
although i wouldnt say that these sounds should be called noise, more like music
i remember the days when i would drive down the street without the cover on, with the air-filter removed.
USING A CAN OF AEROSTART LIKE NOS!!! haha!
tell me of another car that can do that!
19 May 2004 @ 02:10
Warren
Member
Posts : 109
Location : Ringwood East
Conrad
Thats some low bucks High Preformance Mod's you had going
Warren
19 May 2004 @ 04:05
conrad
Member
Posts : 115
Location : newcastle
thats wat happens when u watch fast&furious 2 much
i even considered putting some large washers on my shifter shaft.
cah-CHING, third
cah-CHING, fourth
(hits the aero-NOS)
psssh-ROOOAR!!
19 May 2004 @ 04:36
petejamieson@bigpond.com
Member
Posts : 21
Location : Sydney Removed engine
Have removed the engine as you guys said, it rolled out pretty damn easy. Only prob was the four bolts connecting to the chassy were a bit of a bitch, but persistance paid off. Took about 2 hours.
Will switch all the gear onto the 202 and plug it back in tommorrow.
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19 May 2004 @ 07:48
conrad
Member
Posts : 115
Location : newcastle
i feel ya
i had to let most of mine sit in WD-40 for a day,
i am really good at ripping the heads of bolts so im extra careful
keep us posted on the progress
20 May 2004 @ 01:58
petejamieson@bigpond.com
Member
Posts : 21
Location : Sydney Control arm rubbers?
When i pulled the engine out i noticed the rubbers on the control arm where it joins the chassi rail were a bit flat, does anyone have an answer to were i could get some new ones, and when looking for parts for the front end i've been told it is the same front end as another car such as a torana, ?? any clues
Cheers
pete
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20 May 2004 @ 05:17
Warren
Member
Posts : 109
Location : Ringwood East
Weredoyagetit
try Scotts Old Auto Rubber
Scotts home page
www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au Direct link to what you want
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ausrov/BEDFORD%201977%20CFL%20VAN.htm They did not have any in stock the other day so I just ordered some and they are mailing them to me.
Turn around time approx 1 week.
see this post for more info on the other bits.
http://www.buga.bedfordcf.com/funk/thread.php?id=248 Warren
21 May 2004 @ 01:14
petejamieson@bigpond.com
Member
Posts : 21
Location : Sydney Engine Change
Thanks for the help guys,
popped the 202 engine in, had no real dramas, pretty cool way to change an engine, heaps different to a VE Valiant. Now will just go through the rest of the beast and change any parts that need changing.
Thanks again.
pete jamieson
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03 Jun 2004 @ 02:59
conrad
Member
Posts : 115
Location : newcastle
its easy when u know how
just hope you didnt forget to put
a) oil
and
b) water
in, ive heard horror stories from people lately.
scary stuff
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