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Classifieds => Wanted => Topic started by: downhill on July 06, 2015, 04:58:49 PM
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Wanted, window and handle/lock mechanism, internal, for drivers door. Have glass and tracks, still in door, outside handle ok.
Location Nelson NZ . Local number, 02040797104.
Thanks, downhill, 2nd Beddy! :) In another country! 8)
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mk 1 or mk 2 internal handle ? mk1 is a pull down lever type, mk2 is pull out like the jap cars
window, regulator, door latch are same mk1 and mk2
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Thanks Busy Kiwi, It has splines so is going to be the lever type. I believe it to be a 1980 model long wheel base, badged CF280. Have been asked by the mechs doing the WOF to,find a steering rack also. I have been told also most NZ Beddys were a four cylinder diesel, this one has a crap Isuzu SD25, hard to start and smokes blue when it does. Can you offer any advice on an engine swap that won't require certification, or cost a lot?
Advice greatly appreciated.
downhill
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most NZ vans were 2.3 petrol (slant 4)
Might try trademe for steering rack, not much goes wrong with them unless someone tries to adjust the knuckles who don't know how to do it properly (ie you can't just try tighten them, you have to drill out the pin first).
There is no engine swap you can do without getting it certified. Even changing your seats requires a cert.
If you're considering putting a Holden straight 6 in it I might be able to help you out - no cert required. Message me for details if you want to put in a straight 6.
Else you can put anything in it you want, holden 6, holden v6, chev v8, ld28, another sd25 ...
Doing the swap will require funds, going from diesel to petrol will require a new petrol tank (diesel tank has extra pipe in it for return) etc but if you go for a holden v6 for example you're better off buying a complete car for donor. When I did my white one I got a complete VN Calais for $600 drive away, it was just rusty and wouldn't get a WOF and I used the complete wiring loom, petrol tanks, dash, steering column, radiator, diff centre etc and sold off the parts I didn't use and nearly got my money back. Golden rule when you do this is NEVER get rid of any part until you have finished the conversion, not even the floor mats.
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Down hill
the most common motor in NZ for these was the vauxhall 2.3 lite, same motor that was in the vauxhall victor and the viva magnum. they are a slant 4 cylinder petrol with better performance than the diesel and were the factory fit in NZ where as the red six Holden was the standard motor here in Aus. Check with the authorities as when I was in Kiwi land 186 Holden motors were common place so look around you should be able to get a front beam with engine mounts to suit. Common use over there for the Bedfords were as NZ Post, there were hundreds of them in the day
cheers Rogerfied
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Thanks heaps, Busy Kiwi & Rogerfied! By chance, getting lost, I came across two Beddys in a car yard of sorts out of Richmond here. A later dual rear wheel model, and, a standard CF shorty, converted to camper, as so many seem to be.
The CF still has the standard slant 4 petrol motor. This would solve my problem of certification, a rubbish diesel, and expensive mod costs, would have more standard fitment. It's had enough bits robbed out of it to negotiate cheap price. :)
Thanks Rogerfied for the historical input, I have some standard production codes on a data plate where would I look to see what the fit was from new?
I'm guessing the diesel was a mod from petrol, the long wheel base probably standard with petrol slant 4?
I would be left with a pretty standard shorty, home made camper with pop up top, not sure if it's the real thing. Plus I get good old jelly bean mags! Woo hoo! ;D
I really like the long body, dual left seat and nothing in the back but space! Stock as ! Looks like it was meant to be.
Thanks Beddites, for your replies and enthusiasm, I think the path lies ahead. :D
Pushing uphill looking for a downhill thrill! 8)
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You'll find the 2.3 very slow in today's standards. The good thing about the engines, if they drip oil they are good, if they stop dripping you got problems lol and to fix one of the biggest faults (oil pump being up to high) is to drop a marble in the oil pump inner, this helps stop oil run back so the pumps starts wet instead of always pumping dry on start up.
NZ was slack on production codes. in Oz they had the tag with all the details, in NZ you get 2 tags (on drivers seat base), one is the chassis number (tells year, model etc) and the other tag is trim and colour - sometimes.
If your van is registered as a diesel you might still have to get it cert'd to put the petrol 2.3 back in.
Best and cheapest way around it is to find an Australian assembled CF or a already modified van thats been cert'd
The NZ CF doesn't have a stamped chassis number, unlike other countries
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You still have ownership papers in NZ? If you do the original info on engine will be on there.
Rogerfied
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The ownership papers don't always have the correct details; ie if it's been modified you get a cert plate but these details aren't always transfered over to them.
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Hi historical Beddites, no rego on the van, I do have a cert from 1980 saying it was registered as petrol, 12 passenger rental van. So I would think the diesel was a swap sometime after new. I have a contact, I think he s in Palmerston? seems to have a lot of knowledge of the breed, also is looking into a sale where he would take some and offer the rest to me. Getting a registered unit would help me out a lot so it seems. Waiting on the outcome of that. Failing that, grab the standard unit here and remove what I need, but that would leave me with stuff I don't need. Hopefully my work will continue next year, or shipping home will happen. No duty payable on more than 20 year old vehicles, waiting on rough quotes from a couple of sources. And the value is only $500, on the sale paper work.
I hope it works out, I'd like to look around the place, the eccentric tourist with a lounge, BBQ and pedally in the old girl. ;D
Watch this space . . . 8)
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I have papers and plates for a 202 holden powered lwb (aussie assembled)
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Hi Busy Kiwi, How would that help? Could I get it modded and rego cert? Their have been a few sixes for sale locally, as I have found out the old slant is getting hard to upkeep, do the cross members or sump,need to be modded to get it into a NZ model? Just the hole in the floor? Then an engine cover, I let one go to the scrap yard in Briso, buga, not much help over there anyway. What about the numbers? Wil that trip me up? Got a old slant laying around? Wanna buy what's left of a shorty camper if I buy it to rob the donk? Free even? Can't keep anything at the holiday camp. The standard is a mile away, I ve got a couple of leads but that one is right there, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush!
Oh oh oh BUGA, :-\
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If you mount the holden six in the right place you don't need to cut any of the floor out and you could make an engine cover or find an ozzie 6 one. You'll just need some extensions on the trans/gearbox mount.
Factory six cly bedford = no cert needed.
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Thanks for the info BusyKiwi. I have another lead, not sure what will turn up, also a local van, save on transport costs, get some extra bits, and one I'm not sure what it is, the workshop where my van is gave me a number to ring, no reply as yet, the message was passed on. How would papers and plates work? I make the van fit the paper work and rego follows? The lead was chasing up a van for sale he knew about with a view to parting out what I need and the rest for his bone yard. More info soon to follow, but I can't impose on the workshop too long, and some good has already been done.
And so it goes . . .