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Technical => Driveline => Topic started by: photol on January 24, 2009, 11:05:06 PM
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Morning All
....the real issue is.... sometimes, at a glance, my CFL looks like a 60's model, E300 Mazada concept light commercial, who's designers were tripping..... why? 'cause you can drive a Gogo Mobile into the empty wheel arch. Is this because back in the early 70's, 14in rims are ok with 7in high tyres on them ?
So change it..... without losing the classic LWB "Dually" look, retain or increase ground clearancet and if we have to spend money, then make it better, much[/i ]better....
why not just adapt large disc rotors front and rear ala Ford F350 series,or Dodge, maybe even Transit or toyota have the new rotors drilled with desired bolt stud pattern, work the guards to suit custom 16" 17.5" or (go wild) 20" Dually wheels....voila, improved aesthetics better braking, ride and handling.
Quanto-costa.....estimating two to three grand or more, per corner, depending on how you went about it. Not tooo bad given every thing is new and possibly certified. see you in three years when I've saved the dough..........
......or is there another way, early F250 Duall split rims 15 or 16 inch (?) perhaps a whacky Dyna
.....so far have come up with this.........
http://www.alko.com.au/vehicle/disc_brakes/m_brakes.html (http://www.alko.com.au/vehicle/disc_brakes/m_brakes.html)http://www.dragway.com.au/m_24.asp (http://www.dragway.com.au/m_24.asp)
http://www.hoppers.com.au/ (http://www.hoppers.com.au/)
http://www.customwheelsdirect.com/html/wheels_brand/wheel_detail.php?id=66820 (http://www.customwheelsdirect.com/html/wheels_brand/wheel_detail.php?id=66820)
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yeah, every time one of those dual wheel F350 drives past me i think "hmmmmmmmm, that would be the business"
Has anyone ever measured an F350 diff, and sussed out the bearings required for the front (Yup, i'd rather follow than lead on this one :D"
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...er, yes,....I lament the loss of being able to modify one's postings the next day.....my rather naive ramblings above have a bit of a "cringe" factor.....never the less, I was hoping that in thirty plus years of CFL Bedford existence, some one must have put 16's on one by now....or it just simply ain't possible......
....so in this regard, Worzel, I'm probably not the one to follow, as I may just lead you astray....but I will continue the research and post my findings....
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yeah, i have a few posts that i wish i'd thought about a bit more.
fitting 16" rims isn't a hassle with the single wheel diff as i (misunderstand?) it.
Holden HQ pattern 16" rims if you have holden pattern single wheel diff,
But those F-series with the 18" chrome dual wheels, hmmmmm, me like.
Probably is a bearing combination to suit the front, but the disc caliper adapter plate, that's gonna be a custom jobbie.
I know i'm never gonna go near looking at it seriously, still, no harm in dreaming ::)
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I would have thought that the duallies brakes would be up to the task, and then just find some of those alloy rims - would look sweet
Warren
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..these day(and nights)I'm having trouble telling the difference between dream state and waking state. Although a request for money often snaps me back to this reality.
so let's call this a research project,
I asked Dragway engineering if they can make dual wheel rims, they cannot.
there is a guy selling 9inch diffs that range in price from $750 t $950 depending on type, this may give access to ford f series rear wheels, but there are probably other issues......
ask the brake engineers next.....also carry tape measure and buy a set of electronic vernier calipers....
find some early 84 transit wheels and discs.....as worzel is thinking, and others I'm sure....
a last resort may be finding some high profile 14's.....but there is plenty of time yet
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...hey is this an early transit with discs ? it certainly has DUALLIES
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cant tell man its way too small!!
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Come on Olli at least give us a good look at the gir... um ford. I just read this site for the vans, really!
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Ok Olli I have found a wheel supplier who may be able to help. Can do 5 Stub rims in Bedford pattern. May be able to do 6 Stud 17" Super Single in a Bedford pattern
I need Sydney members near Castle Hill with 5 stud and 6 stud Bedford pattern wheels to drop in so they can measure up.
PM me with your contact numbers please.
Craig
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.....sorry Guy's, I'll fix it up, just gotta find the link again....they are definitely duallies though...... :o
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Have any of our Kiwi members info regarding this company?
http://technicast.co.nz/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 (http://technicast.co.nz/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1)
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edited my post( deleted that one before anyone saw how dumb it was)
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Sorry don't know of them, but no an engineer that can make anything you could name. Built his own street rod, includes wire mag wheels, blower etc, very few of these guys left.
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...this one's for you ben
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....there is no God, if there was, he would help me keep my big mouth shut 'til I knew what I was talking about
.....ok then, like Wozral I'm begining to understand why I havent seen many ....any Lwb's running 16inch duals....
So just imagine five stud disc front and a modified 9inch with Ford F series eight stud pattern dually rear.....(remember there is no God)
let's just say then that we don't mind carting around two spares, 'cause the front 16's are different from the 17.5's duals on the back anyway.......
And here's a very prompt reply from Hopper's stoppers......
Oliver
We have a 300mm twin piston kit available for the CF Vans so we know what
these front ends and the matching stub axle/hubs look like but not possible
to do any stud pattern bigger than (5 inch 127mm) pcd with our disc
conversion.
(F series is 170mm), I will attach some instructions for your interest.
That's just the front and these kits start from $1350.
Regards
Peter Koning
HOPPERS STOPPERS
9 Nevada Crt. Hoppers Crossing, VIC 3029
PH. (03) 97486950 FAX. (03) 9748 5965
300MM Brake kit suit Bedford CF Van
To replace factory drum brakes
• A minimum of 15” diameter wheels are required, these should be of a suitable design to clear the disc brake assembly.
CONTENTS OF KIT
1 pair BA Ford rotors 504 in pattern as requested
1 pair AUII twin piston calipers & cradle brackets with pads
1 pair K1045 billet steel adapter hubs pattern as required
1 pair Outer bearings L68149/11 Inner bearings K07100s/K07210x
1 pair Seals P1531 2.500” x 1.812” x 0.25”
1 pair Grease cap Mits type
2 x adaptor brackets DRG 96673 C shaped
2 x adaptor brackets DRG96672 trapazoidal shaped
4 off spacers 2mm thick by 13 bore by 25 o/d
4 x 1/2” UNF x 2 inch long Cap screws, nuts & spring washers
4 x 1/2” UNF x 3 ½ inch Cap screws, nuts & spring washers
4 x M12 x 1.75 x 40mm long bolts, nuts& spring washers
4 x M12 by 1.75 by 30 hex bolts and spring washers
1 pair brake hoses
2 x banjo bolts
4 x copper washers