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Title: locking fuel cap
Post by: GARRY on May 18, 2014, 11:01:54 AM
Have been searching through the site but can"t find any info and have searched the TRIDON site with no luck. I need a locking fuel cap it"s 100mm across & the centre is about 50mm anyone know of one or something from another vehicle that might fit.  ???
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: maicoletta on May 18, 2014, 08:48:05 PM
I'd love to know too!

I bought one ages ago from ebay.co.uk, but wasn't even close to fitting- not sure if I've got an original size cap/neck combo as Bessie is well camper&custimised already.

I'll take some measurements of the one I bought next time I'm at the shop, and if it fits, its yours if you want it!

Al
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Dano on May 20, 2014, 02:40:14 AM
we do need to sort this one, I think there was two sizes originally, small / large.....I too need a new Large one LWB.....nose to the ground peoples...
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Truck on May 20, 2014, 08:23:22 PM
Maybe try CPC products

http://www.cpcauto.com.au/fuel_caps.aspx (http://www.cpcauto.com.au/fuel_caps.aspx)



Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: rumax on May 20, 2014, 08:53:27 PM
Good find Truck.

Is there a section in the forum categories that these "contacts" can be stored?.... like the door locks
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Dano on May 20, 2014, 09:22:13 PM
 Cheers Truck,  a quick site search found these ...I will give them a call tomorrow, and poss order the larger one if all well....shouldn't be a prob as those (pic #) are the part # for the Beddie....

http://www.cpcauto.com.au/catalogue.aspx (http://www.cpcauto.com.au/catalogue.aspx)
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Truck on May 20, 2014, 09:28:12 PM
I think I found a CPC unit for van a few years back but when I got new van decided I wanted to eliminate the big cap look so had the cover in below link grafted into panel and looks a treat.

http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=103/category_id=60/mode=prod/prd103.htm (http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=103/category_id=60/mode=prod/prd103.htm)
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: GARRY on May 21, 2014, 07:49:27 AM
Thanks fellas i"ll go to repco and order one today. ;D
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Dano on May 25, 2014, 01:46:44 AM
ah Truck ,you've been a busy boy....love the link thanks bud, I have a custom filler set up for the SWB but  how did you go with the breather set up?
Let us know how you go Gaz, I never got a chance to ring these guys, I'll try again on Monday...
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Truck on May 25, 2014, 01:59:30 PM
Yeh Dano been a little busy when I could get time away from work. I tried for months to get the whole fuel door and filler of a wreck from both wreckers and gumtree but no one would let me cut it out of panel so had to look at other options and found the one in above link. Cost was $140 delivered with a spare push thru cap and I fitted the breather pipe to the supplied filler pipe. The door is a little small which is why you need the push thru cap as it would be a bitch trying to remove the cap at each refill and cap also secures filler pipe to the body. Overall very happy with it and it blends in very well.
Cheers Greg
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: maicoletta on May 25, 2014, 09:11:33 PM
I like the idea of the push thru cap Truck, but I'm guessing they're non-locking? Never had an issue so far, but I wouldnt want folk finding out they can just stick a hose in and cyphon away!!

Al
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Truck on May 25, 2014, 11:27:57 PM
Nah not locking Al. As mine is a Sunday driver I was not too worried about locking. My set-up is like today's plastic cars with filler behind fuel door which can be fitted with cable release but mine is simple spring loaded unit that can be opened externally. You could also fit an anti siphon spring before installing cap that stops thieves from getting hose into tank.

Cheers
Greg
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Dano on June 30, 2014, 04:57:46 PM
ahh cool loved your set up... Truck, but for now just need a sealing cap. I have just tried to order one from CPC but advised to go to a retail auto shop.....rang the local and for the first time in history..."yeah bud ...we got one in stock." less than 4KM from the front door.... but the package is a bit dusty....LOL

will let you know..
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Truck on June 30, 2014, 10:23:30 PM
Good stuff Dano will be interested to know if fit is snug.

I still have old non locking if it will help for time being if CPC no good.

Cheers Truck
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Dano on July 02, 2014, 12:53:05 AM
cheers Truck might take you up on that one, it's close but no cigar    YET.... run out if time today to try and fit properly, it seems a snug fit but the spring locks don't lock over the inside edge, meaning either the there isn't enough depth or the seal (cork ) and spring are still too strong and not allowing to depress enough for the spring locks too go over the inside edge... tried some roadside mods but failed, will have to wait till next week....PHUEY....it should/ will work....just have to compress the inside lip alittle, cost me another $30..00 for a tool to do this job, but hey MAN WITH MOST TOOLS WINS....doesn't he?
Dano
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Bedford Fever on August 19, 2014, 09:13:02 PM

   I bought both caps , and they both dont fit and lock. :'(
 
   I got Larger outer diameter one first # SL41EC the exterior covers cap area nicely , but the locking body part wouldnt even scrape the sides

   Next i went the smaller exterior body # SL17 fits like a glove , but you cannot twist to lock it .

  Also on the back of the package their is no mention of Bedford CF on both packets . 

  I will take some pics in the next few days to show, My van was made in 1970 , the locking tabs on the original cap measure 55mm

  Maybe later models changed cap size  ???

  Cheers FRank , im in Melbourne so your welcome to come and test if mine fit
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: rumax on August 20, 2014, 04:58:57 PM
Have a look at ebay UK- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-PETROL-FILLER-CAP-BEDFORD-CF-VAN-/291210608650?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43cd81400a (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-PETROL-FILLER-CAP-BEDFORD-CF-VAN-/291210608650?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43cd81400a)

This is a chrome "genuine" fuel cap, but the box behind has a part number on it.... may be a lead. or a red herring...  ;)
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Hobbit on August 20, 2014, 06:21:51 PM
Found this one on ebay if it's any help.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-CBS-Locking-Petrol-Cap-Bedford-CF-Vauxhall-Models-1960s-on-/350998342551?pt=UK_CarsPar (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-CBS-Locking-Petrol-Cap-Bedford-CF-Vauxhall-Models-1960s-on-/350998342551?pt=UK_CarsPar)
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Gordon on August 20, 2014, 07:27:26 PM
Well spotted Hobbit. That is an exact match for the one that I have on my van at the moment. Even my key has the same logo as the one in the picture.
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Hobbit on August 21, 2014, 09:07:12 AM
That one is a bit pricey though. I have one of these CPC caps for my van.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CPC-SELF-LOCKING-PETROL-CAP-CPC-SL41EC-Australian-Made-/121376928018?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Acce (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CPC-SELF-LOCKING-PETROL-CAP-CPC-SL41EC-Australian-Made-/121376928018?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Acce)
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Dano on August 23, 2014, 09:44:46 AM
Howdy all, sorry for delayed update been soo busy it sucks...still haven't touched the shorty for 9/10 months now, it's killing me......

I was successful to get the SL17 cap to fit, however it did take a bit to do so....and luckily I had / used a dent puller to lift or raise the inside edge a smidge just enough for the internal locking tabs to bight,  the SL 17 by the sounds of it is not a perfect fit or a replacement part as it does require a bit of manipulating, and if your not handy or have a repco in your shed , you will be up against it....I just thought the make shift cap someone had used prior had squeezed my fuel neck somehow, I'll take some pics today..
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Bedford Fever on August 23, 2014, 08:20:06 PM

     Got your PM Hobbit , thank you . I thought hellelujah ran to my cap then ran to my van and tried your method to no avail .
     As hard as l tried it would not lock . As Dano just said , i do believe with some form of manipulation it could fit . So close yet so far.
     I bought the cap from epay , the one mentioned in Hobbits last post .
     Looking forward your photos Dano .

     Cheers FRank
 
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Hobbit on August 24, 2014, 09:18:54 AM
Sorry that didn't work for you, FRank.

According to the CPC vehicle chart, the SL17 cap was for all early models, and the SL41EC from '75 on.
This info used to be printed on the packaging.

These CPC caps should be a perfect retrofit, mine was. The locking tabs of your new cap should measure the same distance apart
as the tabs on your original.

I've used one of these SL41EC caps from the early 80s and only recently replaced it with another, after the stainless plate outer started looking a little bit warped. (Time warped)


Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: GARRY on August 25, 2014, 06:25:03 PM
Just had the same problem the SL17 goes on and nearly fits, so i went to plan B and put one of these on.
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Dano on September 08, 2014, 10:38:47 AM
Here's those photo;s promised, It fits , but as with everything a little modification was required, I think and hope someone had squished the filler neck prior...I'd hate to think that these "replacement parts"  are as is?
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: Dano on September 08, 2014, 10:46:59 AM
Buga, well done Garry, that's the one Iv'e got for my shorty, I think mine was an Earl's from memory cost me the bomb ...years ago, it's buried somewhere in the jewlery box...out in the shed lol did you fit a breather?
Title: Re: locking fuel cap
Post by: GARRY on September 10, 2014, 09:34:31 AM
Hey DANO i bought a wb filler neck with a breather pipe & some 50mm & 13mm, fuel hose to fit them, relocated it to the rear guard for the new tank.
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