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General Category => The Sump => Topic started by: obsession on October 27, 2008, 10:17:12 AM
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Its been a while since i bought one so I thought Id chq the prices out
just got quoted $90.00 trade for a upper 77 ball joint.
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Just rand Supercheap here for a bj24..
They said $95..no trade..
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just got a call from W.A suspension and they said they cant get 1 so ben which branch did you ring and do you have the ph no please ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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ph jim withers of J W Classic Car Parts.
He does them (did them?) for $60 when he has them and will post.
03 9762 6025 home or 0411 088 342 or JWClassicParts@aol.com
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sorru craig i didnt ask i didnt ask what brand..
check out
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/mystore-locator/mystore-locator-search-results-locations.aspx?s=WA&q=&r=
if your wanting a cheaper price im sure you could get them cheaper.. it was just a refernce.
ben
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Top contact Worzel 8) 8) 8) thanks for that, have just ordered an upper balljoint from Jim
Here's the guts of his email for those interested :-
"Thanks for your email. I can supply for 1977 cfs bedford van:
new Upper Ball Joints $55.00 each, $110.00 a pair
postage add $8.00 for 1 or $11.00 to post 2.
Let me know if you wish to order"
Obviously postage may vary as he quoted on my postcode.
Once again thanks go out to Worzel ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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fantastic!!
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thanks guys I just emailed him maybe we should have him as a supplier link?
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thanks guys I just emailed him maybe we should have him as a supplier link?
Sounds lke a plan craig! ;)
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I just had the front of my van checked at WA suspension and it needs all 4 ball joints as suspected.
The drivers side I was convinced was completely buggered by the way it drove, and apparrently the passender side also needs replacing
WA Suspension are going to phone a quote for 4 new ones on Monday.
From the thread above the upper ones are between $55-95 each hopwfully closer to the $55, what about lower ball joints any idea what they should cost?
Dave
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ph jim withers of J W Classic Car Parts.
He does them (did them?) for $60 when he has them and will post.
03 9762 6025 home or 0411 088 342 or JWClassicParts@aol.com
Give him a call, nice guy and excellant prices
and yes upper are 55 each,
lower?????????
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The guys at WA suspension advised me that the ball joints came in two sizes for a 77 CF, anyone know if this sounds correct?
I wrote down what he said on a postit note and tipped coffee on it so it is unreadable but I think he said they were either 41.5millimetres or 43.5 millimetres or something like that. he said you cant tell which are fitted until you take the current ones off.
The prices were also quite steep compared to those mentioned above $85-105each.
How concerned do I need to be about there being several sizes, or can I just order them from one of the guys above?
when WA suspension quoted me I though my van was a 77 but on checking it is a 76cfs, but the same issue may exist.
Also any ideas who might be worth using to fit them in WA, I cant be bothered as I have a lack of the right tools for the job. Has anyone any contacts who do this sort of stuff in WA.
Dave
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Dave this should help? I posted this on the old site so the prices may differ. I would think a 77 would have the BJ148
After a bit of digging through some old parts books here are the part numbers for CF ball joints
Any parts supplier will be able to order these parts. Or contact me and I'll order them for you.
Upper All - BJ24 @ RRP $97
Lower upto chassis CY636000 BJ268 @ RRP $140
41.5mm
Lower from chassis DY600001 BJ148 @ RRP $145
43.2mm
Tie Rod Ends All TE476R @ RRP $84.25
Tie Rods All RE5270
Craig
PS I have the installation tools I can post the to you. Just send them back when you're done.
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yeah there,s definatly 2 sizes, lol
i got caught in that trap,
bought the smaller size,
went to change them and found i needed the larger ones,
took a few more days 2 get them ordered in.
be carefull pressing the top ones in as the top control arms arnt as robust as the bottom ones.
i paid $70ea top and bottom.
bought a press and pressed them in myself.
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Thanks Guys I am getting closer, is there some way I can tell what size ball joints I need.
None of the WA suppliers seem to stock them and all seem to need to get them ex east coast so it would be a waste of time and freight swapping them if I get the wrong ones.
Craig you are saying then ball joint size depends on chassis number, is this number stamped somewhere, I havent looked on the VIN plate?
Any idea if the 1976 part numbers be be the same as a 1977 model part numbers?
Mine is a 76 (or at least that is what the current rego papers say, it has been re registered at least 5 times as it has done the around Australia trip dozens of times with different owners and has had plates from at least 4 states) I will look it up tomorrow based on the info on the old site which I seem to recall said how to check.
regards
David
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Dave the chassis no is located in the drivers stepwell.
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Craig
Thanks mate i thought it might be on that plate.
regards
Dave
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id be carefull going off the number,
might have had a front transplant somewhere along the line.
best removing them both then ordering them, u never know if its got
matching control arms either? might have 1 of each 41.5 and a 43.5
id buy 2 control arms clean and paint em, fit new balljoints then fit em same day.
2 second hand ones wont be dear, then u will have 2 spare in case of drama,s in future.
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i will agree with marty.. ive swapped control arms on peoples vans (much easier than pushing ball joints out and in just change whole wishbone) so it definatly is a possiblity having 1 of each or different to orig..
ben
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the simple way to tell is one has a grease nipple (smaller older i think ), and one doesn't ( latter larger one). the control arms could easily have been changed oner, so the chassis no. is not a deffinite answer, just what it once was (it's a bedford, could be any thing)
If it has a grease nipple, ring up JW and order one with a grease nipple, if it doesn't, ring up JW and order one without a grease nipple.
PS it's a bedford so i could be way wrong ;D
If you remove one you can measure it and then order ::)
Good luck
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ive herd about this worzel. how accurate is it? is it the early model with a grease nipple or the later model?
ben
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So from the emails so far my understanding is that
- there is only one type of upper ball joint BJ24
- there are two types of lower ball joints being
Ball Joint Lower up to chassis CY636000 BJ268 41.5mm (Has grease nipple?)
Ball Joint Lower from chassis DY600001 BJ148 43.2mm (does not have grease nipple?)
does that mean if I look under my van and do not see the grease nipple it is the later 42.3mm ball joint
I didnt even think about replacing tie rods & ends, how likely is it that these will need doing?
Dave
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Dave the tie rod ends wear and the rubber boots split allowing dirt in which encourages wear. Tie rods dont wear that much I just found the number so I put it in the post.
Craig
PS I would not trust the grease nipple idea as you can get all ball joints, tie rod ends etc in both configurations. Without a grease nipple may have the suffix e after the part number meaning encapsulated.
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PS I would not trust the grease nipple idea as you can get all ball joints, tie rod ends etc in both configurations. Without a grease nipple may have the suffix e after the part number meaning encapsulated.
Worked for me, I phoned JW and said i wanted a ball joint, he said what size? , i said "DUH?, he said nipple or no nipple, i said nipple, i paid, he posted , i fitted, was good!
But It's a bedford so no guarantees :D
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My van has the higher chassis number and no grease nipple so I am guessing that it is the 43.2mm balljoint but I think I will just order both and return the one that is wrong fro a credit if they do that.
The top balljoints have grease nipples the lowers dont.
I wonder how many other grease nipples my van has that I have never greased. I guess i should have a look at what I drive a bit closer, but I reckon preventative maintenance might be a bit late for the ball joints now they are all stuffed.
cheers
Dave
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hey dave here,s what can happen when balljoints decide to let go.
and all my balljoints looked in great cond.
the month before i was traveling around nimbin, byron murwillumbah area,s with some dangerous gravel mountain roads to navigate.
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll265/marty23121961/Image079.jpg)
lucky at the time i was in my parents home town traveling slow down a road with that many potholes it looked like the moons surface, ( THANX TO NSW RTA) our roads are the worst in Australia.so ive been told from nearly every interstate traveller.
p.s/ when it lets go its either fix it there where it sits or towtruck home,
this wouldnt have been a pretty site if it let go at 100kms per hr or in the winding mountain roads, it was a few hundred metres drop if went over the side.
when i got it towed home i replaced all 4 balljoints, 2 tierod ends, tailshaft uni,s, complete clutch, g/box, rear brakes n gave it a full service.