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Technical => Driveline => Topic started by: Stangas on December 02, 2012, 09:17:24 PM
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Hey all..
Been throwing ideas around with the bride. We have a lexus soarer with a toyota 1UZ-FE engine (quad cam efi V8) with only 160k on the clock.
The car is pretty rough due to being left out in the weather.
So... will this engine and 4spd auto fit into a bedford?
Has anyone tried?
http://www.lextreme.com/1uzfe_info.html (http://www.lextreme.com/1uzfe_info.html)
Here is a website that explains the size of the engine, saying it is 30% bigger than a 350 chev. So starting to have my doubts
Can anyone tell me if a rear sump or a front sump is required in a bedford.. i am almost certain my toyota engine is rear.
Any input appreciated
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I hadf a brief look at one when I was repowering mine and brief was all I needed. I think you'd be cutting far too much steel out of the front to ever get it certified. They are just too big.
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I know a guy who tried to put one in, well he did get it in but so many problems.
He had to cut the floor out to the rails on both sides (so was a massive hole), both sides had no foot space and the steering and pedals had to be moved for the air intake box module. I think he had to move the seats back a bit as well.
If i remember correctly, the distance between the rails is 900mm (could be a bit more), so thats how big the top of your engine cover would be, plus the extra width on drivers side for intake pipes etc
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WOW... that big huh..
Bit of a shame... i have it available in my shed.
Oh well... might have to sell it and get an efi ford or chev
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or midmount it ;)
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Midmount... where would i sleep?
LOL
Any serious options for efi conversions?
I am yet to see any efi engines in a van.. i assume if it was only pushrod engine, the height would not be an issue
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Heres one we prepared earlier :)
(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=30936&g2_serialNumber=2)
(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=30901&g2_serialNumber=2)
I think its Gen 3 holden 308
NOTE: EFI stands for Electronic Fuel Injection, now if your laking about OHC (Over Head Cam) thats differentera
Warren
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What a beautiful sight that is Warren.... ::) ::) ::) It looks like one of the earlier v8s maybe VN or VP? .Also that pic from the front...It looks las though a section of the bulkhead can be unbolted for better access..is that right? cheers...Johnno
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looks like a VN possibly VP which makes it a 304 ;)
In terms of midmounting the lexus motor, you can easily make the engine cover a bed that lifts to give easy access to the motor, just gives the ability to still have foot room when driving
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In terms of midmounting the lexus motor, you can easily make the engine cover a bed that lifts to give easy access to the motor, just gives the ability to still have foot room when driving
and bed'll be nice and warm when you pull up for the night!!
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Mate.. cheers for the pics... that looks bloody awesome.
I think that may be the better option... i might even be able to buy a VN SS donor car complete... then sell the soarer complete.
In saying that... that 304 seems to be sitting much higher than my 253 currently is... from memory the rocker covers atm are below the floor pan.
Is midmount really an option? or you just having a laugh?
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quick google found this... check it out.
http://www.munchtech.com/bedford/van13.html (http://www.munchtech.com/bedford/van13.html)
i think the holden motor is the option... LOL
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quick google found this... check it out.
http://www.munchtech.com/bedford/van13.html (http://www.munchtech.com/bedford/van13.html)
i think the holden motor is the option... LOL
Think this van belongs to a very celver guy on here.
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hey nothing wrong with midmounted
Thanks vandee, but I'm normal just like everyone else
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I thought it looked familiar when i got to the end..
So how much work was involved in the end?
heaps i would imagine.
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Surely no harder than making an appropriate crossmember to mount the engine and one for the gearbox, shortening the tailshaft, and cutting a hole in the floor to suit, plus making an engine cover/bed to fit.
The wiring and so on are issues that're present regardless of mid or front mount
Then theres the engineering side, and the pleasure of having lighter steering..
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And you also have less issues fitting a power steering rack when you don't have the engine up front to consider.