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Technical => Driveline => Topic started by: Rogue Trooper on September 05, 2012, 11:44:51 AM
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Hi
Does anyone know what size flaring die is required for CF brake lines? Also the connectors required? I'm tossing up whether to buy a flaring kit and make the couple of brake lines I need as opposed to getting them made up. The last one I had made cost a small fortune and if I'd known what they were going to charge me I would have bought a kit then.
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get the pipe and bend your self .. get contours in waterloo to put the fitting on and flare them ....
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Contours are the one's who charged me an arm and a leg. They were bought by a bunch of mechanics a couple of years ago and it hasn't been the same since. All the experience left with the old owner. Flaring the pipe doesn't look too difficult. I watched the guy do it last time. I just need the size of the dies so I can ensure that the flaring tool I purchase has the right size in it. I'd rather buy the tool and do it myself for the same price they charge. At least I have the tool at the end of it for future.
Found the same thing when I was removing the shocks from the springs on the Jag rear. Thought I'd just get Hadley's to remove them because it would be cheaper than buying the spring compressors to do it my self. Big mistake. Suffice to say I then bought the set of spring compressors to put the shocks and springs back together and that was half the price and I now have a set of spring compressors.
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I'm only guessing here Rogue, but would not the kits be sold simply as Metric or Imperial?
Failing that, pull an old wheel cylinder apart and take it with you when you go shopping.
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You'd want a double flaring tool
I can't remember the size but you just use the size that fits in the pipe.
You can't really go wrong, worse you can do is make it wonky, then just cut it off (with pipe cutter) and redo it, it has to be straight to seal
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I'm only guessing here Rogue, but would not the kits be sold simply as Metric or Imperial?
Failing that, pull an old wheel cylinder apart and take it with you when you go shopping.
Yes they're metric or imperial. I was going to just grab one from eBay but I might see what the local price is first at BnT. Some of the kits have more dies than others though so I want to make sure the kit I grab has the die I need in it.
You'd want a double flaring tool
I can't remember the size but you just use the size that fits in the pipe.
You can't really go wrong, worse you can do is make it wonky, then just cut it off (with pipe cutter) and redo it, it has to be straight to seal
Most of the kits I've looked at do both single and double.
The size that fits in the pipe sounds easy enough. Just need to make sure that that size is in the kit. Might just get the kit with the most dies that way I'm as covered as I can be.
Was going to do a few practice ones first anyway to hone my technique. Ta.
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3/16 tube 3/8 unf thread size
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Sweet. Thanks very much.
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You cab use metric or imp, it doesn't have to be an exact fit, just a close fit.
In fact if there is even the slightest burr your better off using the smaller of the two or you wont get it out of the pipe.
They have them on trade me sometimes starting at $1 reserve
You can pay 3 times more for a double flare kit
From memory the front brakes for example use single flare on the brake and double on the joiner, boosters can vary.
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i think i paid 45 bucks for my double flaring tool.. couldnt do without it now. never have too many tools rouge!
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when replacing drums with cf2 front disks do any of the brake lines need changing or are they a straight swap
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I did mine, and it's a straight bolt on swap.....EEEEEzzzy. And a huge difference in smoothness.
There can be a tendency for the rears to lock up, so a limiting valve is a good idea and may be required for the engineer's cert that you should really get if you want to be legal.
Whoops! I just remembered that my brakes came with the flexable hoses attached, so there is a possibility that the brake ends of the rubber hoses have a different fitting.
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You definitely need to change them if you fit HQ calipers. I would have thought you'd need to for any disc's actually.
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was the flexy rubber hose i was thinking about ... ill try the fitting on my swb in the garage ..tho its an early model cf and the brakes are off a 88 cf2 , i also have hq setup but would like to stay cf for now , jeff did you have to change the ball joints ? , my van is a 79 swb
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Ball joints matched up OK, but mine is an 82 swb.