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Technical => Driveline => Topic started by: Marky on May 15, 2012, 08:21:51 PM
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hey all ..
the rubbers that are enclosed in the end of each of my leaf springs are shot...
need to replace them....anyone know what Model to ask for?
Is my CFL Jumbo..w holden banjo diff..10" single wheels...
maybe HQ?
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Marky, you also need to know the spring width. I believe Bedfords came out with 2 sizes. 55mm spring width, eye diameter 28.5 mm and 80mm spring width, eye diameter 35mm width. Superpro do a urethane rear set. For the 55mm set it is about $109.00 from Supercheap.
Hope this is of help.
Mike
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Thanks found em here at
http://203.31.191.243/fulcrumCat/ (http://203.31.191.243/fulcrumCat/)
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Part No.SPF 1337K (55mm spring width...28.5 eye diameter)
$75 for a set of 12 rubbers ..6 sleeves......nice!!!
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well all is not as it seems...
got the rubber kit ....
6 sets of bushes
4 x leaf spring eye bushes
2 x rear shackle
-leaf spring eye diameter is ok..
-but my bolts are bigger in diameter..so used my old sleeves..buffed em up n are ok.. refitted them w new rubbers
-but the top rear rubbers..(shackle ones) the ones that hold the spring to the chassis rail are the wrong ones..
in the pack supplied they .way too small...
will be on the hunt tomorrow for a suitable replacement....
hmmmmmm Beddy sagas......
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ah!!, but!!!...it is......a blitish bredflord!!!....did you explect ,...any ress??..... glasshopper?? :)
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Marky,
I had a similar problem with my Whiteline upper control arm bushes. They packed the wrong dia crush tubes, as you can check the specs on their web site. I rang them up and they sent new ones out. On one of the back pages on Fulcrum you can look for your bushes/tubes. Follow link.
http://www.superpro.com.au/why-superpro/find-my-bush-size (http://www.superpro.com.au/why-superpro/find-my-bush-size)
Mike
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well they are all wrong....this kit doesn't fit a CFL..maybe a CFS most prob..
Seeems to me CFLs had bigger everything...makes more sense w the extra weight n all
...my leaf spring eye diameter is 35mm...Spring width 55mm.........
huh?
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well...sent back the pack of rubbers...they are only for CFS...
no one makes a suitable replacement... ??? ???
the next size up 85mm wide..35 mm eye diameter are close..but not the right fit
so will get em turned down tomorrow arvo...after i get the new ones........
aaaaaaarrrrggghh!!!
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Marky,
The only last option would be to contact Spectrum Rubber. Whilst they don't list the bushes for Bedford they do have other bushes for holdens and they might have some which might suit.
Worth a try, the worst they can say is NO.
http://www.spectrumrubber.com.au/ (http://www.spectrumrubber.com.au/)
Unit 4, 4 Appin Place
Dunheved
NSW
2760
Australia
Telephone: 61 2 9623 5333
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Thanks 8)
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Hey Marky,
I had the same problem years ago when I replaced all the bushes in my LWB. Rear suspension bushes were not available in either rubber (original) or aftermarket nolethane.
I ended up getting a set custom made in nolathane by a suspension crowd here in Auckland. Didn't cost much and they're easy to make if you have the gear.
Talk to some of your suspension people over there or a machine shop should be able at turn them up for you from nolethane rod.
Garry.
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ah Thanks Gary...finally some one with a LWB....hmmm
so it seems..i have tried all available stockists..here in oz..whiteline..superpro...nolathane...
Getting some turned up was the last option....
Can u tell me what the bush you made up looked like?...
the reason i had to replace them...was the previous owner obviously had the same prob n made some nylon tubes as a substitute for bushes..
they were flogged n oval ..where they are once round...
is it a tapered bush that i make up.?flat centre...lil tapered edge? (looks like a toilet roll)
..or the type like a control arm bush.... with a lip... 2 bushes n a tube? (Cotton reel type)
i have nothing to reference to...
many thanks
Marky..
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A photo and measurements of an ORIGINAL would really help, has anyone got one they can take a pic of?
Then it's as simple as getting some Nolathane and giving it and the specs to someone with a lathe...
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I'd like to let you know what they're like but it must have been about 15 years ago now and the memory isn't that hot so not sure. I replaced all three spring bushes, both sides and I have a feeling at least one of them was two piece, ie a bush pushed in from both sides of the spring. Not sure though so I'll crawl under the van at the weekend and see if I can jog my memory. They did have a metal sleeve through the middle where the bolt runs. My rear springs are the single leef version so any dimensions may differ from the multi leef ones.
Nylon isn't the material to use so no wonder they are now oval and shagged. It works fine as a rotary bush, like a bearing, but not under the compression loading that a suspension bush suffers.
Cheers,
Garry.
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ah Thanks Gary...finally some one with a LWB....hmmm
so it seems..i have tried all available stockists..here in oz..whiteline..superpro...nolathane...
Getting some turned up was the last option....
Can u tell me what the bush you made up looked like?...
the reason i had to replace them...was the previous owner obviously had the same prob n made some nylon tubes as a substitute for bushes..
they were flogged n oval ..where they are once round...
is it a tapered bush that i make up.?flat centre...lil tapered edge? (looks like a toilet roll)
..or the type like a control arm bush.... with a lip... 2 bushes n a tube? (Cotton reel type)
i have nothing to reference to...
many thanks
Marky..
OK. the answer lies in the Nolothane website. They have bush dimensions in them. Now if my memory is not too bad I ended up using a EA EB??? falcon lower inner bush kit in my CFL. They fitted the rear of the rear and the front of the rear springs. All round. I can't remember the number offhand but will look it up tonight for you. In the front I had to "polish" the flange on the back of the Nolothane bush with a grinder to make it a tiny bit thinner. I also "polished" the centre sleeve a bit too. I don't know how long they are going to last but they are in and they have tightened up the springs a treat. When they stuff up (long time of short time) a replacement set is readily available and cheap.
I'll suss the number out tonight for you.
Cheers
Neil
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OK. the answer lies in the Nolothane website. They have bush dimensions in them. Now if my memory is not too bad I ended up using a EA EB??? falcon lower inner bush kit in my CFL. They fitted the rear of the rear and the front of the rear springs. All round. I can't remember the number offhand but will look it up tonight for you. In the front I had to "polish" the flange on the back of the Nolothane bush with a grinder to make it a tiny bit thinner. I also "polished" the centre sleeve a bit too. I don't know how long they are going to last but they are in and they have tightened up the springs a treat. When they stuff up (long time of short time) a replacement set is readily available and cheap.
I'll suss the number out tonight for you.
Great info for us CFL owners Neil, thanks mate.
Jock
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so after lots of different bushes that were meant to fit
i have ordered some that Will fit my van....
I have 55mm leaf springs,,w 34mm eye diameters n 16mm tubes (bigger bolts than CFS)
-Nolathane part no #46021
-Whiteline Part no # W61490
they are suited to Holden Gemini..but will get my CFL... :)