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Title: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: Gordon on April 25, 2012, 12:46:54 PM
Hi All

Spent a bit of time under the CF2 donor van this morning whilst I was doing an oil change. I noticed that the CF2 has multi bladed rear springs whereas my CF1 has a single leaf spring. Does anyone know if the mounting brackets for the rear springs on the CF1 and CF2 are the same? I'm keen to take the Galaxy 9 inch and multiple leaf springs for my CF1 if I can.
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: Bas / NZ on April 25, 2012, 02:42:17 PM
Pretty sure they are the same ( both being shot wheel base), you have both vans there, so a quick measure would let you know, can alter anything you need, have a Arch Welder here. Bas
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: Gordon on April 25, 2012, 04:27:50 PM
Cheers Bas !

I'll do some further investigation.
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: ben on April 26, 2012, 09:28:58 AM
i know someone here in aus who had single leaf and swapped over to multi leaf so i would bet they are the same.. made a lot of difference to the van..

ben
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: Gordon on April 26, 2012, 10:23:18 AM
Thanks Ben. I was thinking that it should improve the ride too.
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: Bas / NZ on April 26, 2012, 11:26:24 AM
Yes Gordon, my camper has 3 leaf and drove very we and this is a big van, but it was a single leaf to start with, as I had the other 2 added. Bas
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: BusyKiwi on April 26, 2012, 06:50:45 PM
You'll find with the mutli spring it needs weight to make it a smooth ride, else its rigid (unless they are worn)
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: Gordon on April 26, 2012, 07:18:50 PM
I don't plan to use the van for loads, so Busy, in your opinion would it be best to stick with the single leaf springs ?
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: BusyKiwi on April 26, 2012, 07:52:15 PM
There is nothing wrong with the single spring, mutli will take more load (although single can take a lot), so is personal preference really. the mutli can squeak and singles can sag (over time with a lot of weight).

My standard CF is my storage as well, I have under the bed chooka with parts (which I also need to part with), even took half of them down to van nationals last year towing the custom van, it handled well. Only cause I ran out of time to take them out lol
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: ben on April 26, 2012, 09:06:46 PM
my friends van was really bouncy with a single leaf. i wonder if the shockers were stuffed thou..
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: Bas / NZ on April 26, 2012, 09:10:12 PM
My standard CF is my storage as well, I have under the bed chooka with parts (which I also need to part with), even took half of them down to van nationals last year towing the custom van, it handled well. Only cause I ran out of time to take them out lol

David bring it around to my place, I will empty it for you,,,,,,,,,,,,, ;)
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 27, 2012, 05:14:19 AM
my friends van was really bouncy with a single leaf. i wonder if the shockers were stuffed thou..

You're right. Unless you are carrying heavy loads around all the time the single leaf is bloody awful. I used to be able to launch the back end of mine into the air over the Haywards Hills here in Wellington if I was doing roughly 100km which is a little disconcerting when you're not expecting it.
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: BusyKiwi on April 27, 2012, 06:39:37 AM
A full tank of fuel will soften the ride, but it's the shocks that absorb the bumps
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: Bas / NZ on April 27, 2012, 06:51:26 AM
A full tank of fuel will soften the ride, but it's the shocks that absorb the bumps

On my Duel Wheel van, nothing obsorbs the bumps, not even new shocks........
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: BusyKiwi on April 27, 2012, 08:11:29 AM
Thats cause its made to take a load, same as a ute, put a little bit of weight in them and they ride smooth, no weight they jump around
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: Bas / NZ on April 27, 2012, 08:22:17 AM
So you are saying, when I get my single wheel diff under there with 15" rims shoed with 295 x60's I will have a normal van....... Yes :)
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: Bas / NZ on April 27, 2012, 05:36:07 PM
My  Camper also runs coil springs from the diff to the floor, don't no if this is factory or not  ???
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: BusyKiwi on April 27, 2012, 06:12:27 PM
They used the coils springs in the jap vans too, if they cause problems you can replace them with skinny air bags (like the jap vans do too), they just there for extra weighted loads.

If you guys are having beds in the back and are a bit, well shall we say "wild" in that department then you may need dual shocks ;) lol
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: Bas / NZ on April 27, 2012, 06:54:51 PM
Ok guess that is what it is for, think it would help with the ride aswell.
Title: Re: CF1 versus CF2 rear spring swap out
Post by: Gordon on April 28, 2012, 04:22:57 PM
Hey Bas, is that the "ride" Busy is talking about  ;)
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