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Classifieds => For Sale => Found for sale => Topic started by: Worby876 on April 15, 2012, 09:58:33 PM
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Heres a couple of Beddy motorhomes for sale
Some are going for a song
http://n4.countrycars.com.au/centralwest/wauchope/car-dealer/used-car/1977/bedford+motor+home+rv/dual+fuel/1163751?back=52 (http://n4.countrycars.com.au/centralwest/wauchope/car-dealer/used-car/1977/bedford+motor+home+rv/dual+fuel/1163751?back=52)
http://www.caravancampingsales.com.au/buy/details.aspx?_N=1549+1552+1602+1601+4294963507+4294965513&R=12304222 (http://www.caravancampingsales.com.au/buy/details.aspx?_N=1549+1552+1602+1601+4294963507+4294965513&R=12304222)
http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automotive/Caravans/AdNumber=TP004943044 (http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automotive/Caravans/AdNumber=TP004943044)
I wish I had the $$$ and the nerve ( my wife would kill me ;)
) to get these.
Cheers
Ian
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Nice motorhomes!
Youd buy em if you could? whats wrong with the one you already got?
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Nothing to serious wrong with it, but I would like. V8 instead of straight 6
Airconditioning, disc brakes, auto transmission instead of manual just to name a
Few features some of these units have.
I also like the U shaped layout the rear lounge that converts to double bed of one of the units.
Nice to dream a bit eh? ::)
Cheers
Ian
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G'day Ian,
the LWB one is a twin to mine albeit with different coloured trim. It is certainly a good buy at 15k. I noticed that he has drilled holes in the grille and bonnet etc to get more air in to the motor. Some things never change... ::) ::)
I agree with you about the engine choices. I went to Bribie Island over easter and a bit more power and another gear would have been handy. having said that though, I sat on about 80kph (at goodness knows what revs) and managed 16MPG for the trip. So not too shabby.
I have a VT V6 and 4 speed auto in the shed for a transplant after rego in June. I have spoken to a lot of people and am comfortable about how things will fit. I spoke to an engineer and a couple of interesting questions first up. (might be a clue to the new NSW registration/engineering rules)
a) V6 or V8 (V6 so tick the box for weight difference and un-hoonlike acceptance by engineer) ;)
b) Engine mounts (conversion kit so tick the box for acceptance by engineer) :)
Not going to hijack this thread with engine swap details and will put it up in a stand alone thread after June. Suffice to say though that the V6 is shorter than the straight 6. The 4 speed electronic auto is longer than the early cable operated 4 speed auto (and this puts the motor further forward if using the original gearbox cross member). The Ecotec V6 and 4 speed auto look to line up pretty well with the current 202 mounts and position. TBC when i drop the old one out and i regress to lots of bad language ;D ;D
Cheers
Neil
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Neil, I have the V6 in mine, sat the engine mounts forward so gearbox mount lines up, this means driveshaft etc stays the same, and no need to cut the floor in length, but still needs to be cut wider........
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Baz, that was what I was referring to. I ran the 'guessing stick' over the unit and my conclusion was that if i went from the extension housing oil seal forward then i wouldn't need to cut the back of the engine hole or shorten the tailshaft. Have you done any photos??
I just noticed that you included one DOH!
Did you have to change the sump to reverse facing? I also reckon i can get away with the original sump too.
Cheers
Neil
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I also have some photos in my standard cf folder on the v6 conversion
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Baz, that was what I was referring to. I ran the 'guessing stick' over the unit and my conclusion was that if i went from the extension housing oil seal forward then i wouldn't need to cut the back of the engine hole or shorten the tailshaft. Have you done any photos??
I just noticed that you included one DOH!
Did you have to change the sump to reverse facing? I also reckon i can get away with the original sump too.
Cheers
Neil
Sump has not bee changed, will take some photo's for you tomorrow, David conversion above is done different from mine, but well done too.
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G'day Ian,
the LWB one is a twin to mine albeit with different coloured trim. It is certainly a good buy at 15k. I noticed that he has drilled holes in the grille and bonnet etc to get more air in to the motor. Some things never change... ::) ::)
I agree with you about the engine choices. I went to Bribie Island over easter and a bit more power and another gear would have been handy. having said that though, I sat on about 80kph (at goodness knows what revs) and managed 16MPG for the trip. So not too shabby.
G'day Mate,
I'm glad you got an opportunity to take your rig for a run. I hope the weather was nice and kind to you over the Easter break. some folk got a little washed out.
I see what you mean in saying the LWB unit from the ACT is a sister to yours...what is the front bumper and lower air dam or scoop from? Ford or a commodore? Do they just bolt on or do you reckon there is some cutting and bogging involved in making it fit?
16 MPG seems pretty comparable to a family car towing a caravan so I guess that's about right.
I run LPG when I can and get a tad better than that but not by much.
With a small block V8 like a 253 or 308 running LPG I think the economy would be similar but the benefit of more pulling power from the overlapping power strokes and that coupled with disc brakes and a good hiway diff ratio and 5 or 6 speed auto transmission would make cruising a lot less tiring and open up a wider number of options for family and friends to share the driving.
I will continue to follow your conversion to a v6 with great interest.
Cheers
Ian
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Hey Baz.....Johnno here mate, do you have any pics from above showing where the v6 motor sits on the crossmember.?
cheers... ;D
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Hey Baz.....Johnno here mate, do you have any pics from above showing where the v6 motor sits on the crossmember.?
cheers... ;D
Will take some tomorow, getting dak outside now, just got in, mine sits off the front cross member, so the motor sits forward
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Thanks Bazza.... ;D ;D ;D
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Ok these show how the mount steps out past the front crossmember, leaving the motor foward so no cutting at the back, but my firewall has been cut due to the motor sitting higher, check out David's Gallery, his sits over the crossmember to but no firewall cut, not sure about the back.
His Link.......http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=21&g2_itemId=26785 (http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=21&g2_itemId=26785)
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Thanks very much Baz....Those pics are great. Food for thought ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Yeah i cut the back of the floor for mine, for compassion to Baz's, my engine mounts are in the middle of the beam, and about 20mm between cross member and sump, and sump and steering rack
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Ok these show how the mount steps out past the front crossmember, leaving the motor foward so no cutting at the back, but my firewall has been cut due to the motor sitting higher, check out David's Gallery, his sits over the crossmember to but no firewall cut, not sure about the back.
His Link.......http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=21&g2_itemId=26785 (http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=21&g2_itemId=26785)
Baz,
thank you so much for the photos and links. David's swap was a lot more than i am planning to do. I could't even think about getting my head across Lucas electrics into a Commodore dash. ??? ???
A couple of things seem to emerge from the different transplants.
1) there are many different ways of doing this swap.
2) early V6 motors differ in intake manifold design to the later ones and this impacts on the decision to cut the floor or not as the earlier motor has the air intake at the rear of the manifold and the later motor is half way along on the left.
3) early cable 4 speed autos are a different length to the later electronic 4 speed autos.
4) It is possible to fit either V6 to a Bedford without needing to change to a reverse facing sump. A considerable saving.
5) a V6 motor transplant can be installed "from the extension housing seal forward" and still use the standard rear cross member.
6) a V6 motor transplant can be installed "from the extension housing seal forward" and still use the standard tailshaft without modification.
7) V6 engine mounts can still be used.
8) etc
All of which confirms my preliminary (albeit rough) analysis of the future swap into my Beddy.
Thanks once again. Will post more after June when I start the project.
Neil
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I used the whole commodore wiring loom in my transplant, removed the bedford one and commodore goes from headlights to tail lights. The only joins I made was at the tail lights.
The only other change i did was to untape it and retape it so things aligned better.
The commodore has a lot of fault finding options in the dash
My trans mount has extentions bolted to the original mounts to extend backwards
I used standard V6 sump on mine, only thing I changed to the motor was a front pulley, removed the air con pump and made up the air intake tube.
Just a note to anyone considering the change, before welding your engine mounts close to the V6 mounts as they are meant to be filled with oil
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I actually based my transplant of Baz's, I think I still have a few photos i took of it somewhere
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Thanks once again. Will post more after June when I start the project.
intersted to see progress when it starts.. starting to think v6 may be a good cheap option