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Technical => Campers => Topic started by: IWander on February 28, 2012, 12:03:53 PM
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I have recently purchased a Bedford to convert into a motorhome and need to work out if I need any modifications/engineering certificates to get it registered in Victoria.
Can someone please help me first of all with the chassis number, its location, meaning or description of the vehicle and any other info you might think I can use.
Im told that the Firewall displays a number and that is the number to use. Mine in particular on that firewall is DJ475075, however when I rang Vicroads, the C.S.O. told me that the number is 16 characters long?
Now Im confused?
I would like to find out is if it is easier/cheaper to get it registered first, then convert it to a motorhome or do the whole thing at once?
Obviously if I have electrics, 240 volt that will need a certificate.... but I'd get that from the sparky and gas would be the same no doubt.
Engineering Certificates is going to be one of my biggest problems at that rate.
Does anyone know where I can get one, who from and maybe a ballpark on costs?
Having read posts on this thread (click on the blue letters to go there) (http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=3711.0) and here (http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=3638.0) I see there are quite a number of members that might have the right knowledge or are a good foundation to be able to help me out.
If anyone has any ideas about it I would very much appreciate your help.
Cheers. Mark.
Oh yeah the other thing I needed to know then, was engine sizes.
This one has a V8 and auto in it. So I need to find out if beddies came out with a V8 in them as standard or is that considered a modification?
Hmmm, yep thats a pretty full on request I've given you. Hope to hear back with your expertise.
Thanks everyone.
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The person at Vicroads was wrong, Chassis numbers have up to 17 characters, back in Bedford days, there was not that many.. The chassis number is the chassis number.
The cost of a engineer depends on which one you go to, contact vicroads websight and find one that is approved near you and talk to them with your plans before you start, and make shore your plan will be allowed by the time you finish. The rules are a mash at the moment, so listen to the engineer and vicroads, that way you won't guided in the wrong direction.
V8's are a modification, the thing to find out is, was it registed as a V8 previously, and hopfuly it was with vicroads and it still has the same engine number.
when you talk to vicroads, talk to some one in the modified vechicle section, get their name, and always try to talk to the same person. With a bit of luck, you'll get their direct line and that can save you up to an hour a phone call
GOOD LUCK
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G'day
Years ago the NSW RTA had a specification sheet showing that Bedford CF vans had been factory fitted with a 308 V8 and so didn't need an engineers report.
When I asked about I was told that 6 Bedford vans were fitted with a 308 for the Holden racing team. Because they were factory fitted that set the specification.
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G'day
Years ago the NSW RTA had a specification sheet showing that Bedford CF vans had been factory fitted with a 308 V8 and so didn't need an engineers report.
When I asked about I was told that 6 Bedford vans were fitted with a 308 for the Holden racing team. Because they were factory fitted that set the specification.
that would have been the days:)
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They would of had to of had unique chassis numbers, would love to get my hands on an original one.
I wonder if any of them are still around
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G'day
I had a CFS with a 308 T400 that I got a yellow bird for chirping too loudly. The 308 wasn't on the rego and when I took it to the RTA inspection station to get rid of the bird, the Inspector only wanted a weigh bridge ticket to pass the 308. He showed me the specification sheet that was in his book. I would have loved to get a copy.
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so do we need an engineers cert to fit a v8?
if the van has disk brakes on front?
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so do we need an engineers cert to fit a v8?
if the van has disk brakes on front?
You will have to have an engineers cert to go for a piss soon. ;)
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There was a van on ebay awhile back that said it was a Holden Racing Team factory V8, If I remember right, it was red and in QLD.
Not knowing any better, I thought they were full of shit ::) ::)
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so do we need an engineers cert to fit a v8?
if the van has disk brakes on front?
That is the $64 question! If it has a 308 the no you shouldn't.
You will have to have an engineers cert to go for a piss soon. ;)
I thought you already did. My eyes have been yellow for months. The local Engineer retired and nobody has stepped in.
There was a van on ebay awhile back that said it was a Holden Racing Team factory V8, If I remember right, it was red and in QLD.
Not knowing any better, I thought they were full of shit ::) ::)
I saw that one and thought it had been bought by a Bugarite. It probably was one of the factory vans.
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Wow.. Cool.. Thanks for the heaps of replies Buga's & Buga-ettes lots of great info in here.
Thanks rossie,
was it registered as a V8 previously, and hopefuly it was with vicroads and it still has the same engine number.
this one came from QLD and the sticker has long since deteriorated. Its been unregistered for some time.
so do we need an engineers cert to fit a v8?
if the van has disk brakes on front?
Thanks too mty, mine has had a new front end installed complete with disk brakes and 14" holden wheels. My largest concern there is, now with the front end having 14" wheels with 5 studs and car wheel nuts and the rear is truck size nuts and 6 stud? Anyone got any ideas?
Inspector only wanted a weigh bridge ticket to pass the 308. He showed me the specification sheet that was in his book. I would have loved to get a copy.
Oh yeah, wouldnt you kill to get a copy of that.
and BlackBedford for your reply too. From what I am told this Beddy was registered in Qld with a V8 auto in her.
Just something else I thought of fellow bedaphiles.. with the diff ratio? Can you just change the pinion and ring gears to convert it to a highway diff?
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with the diff ratio? Can you just change the pinion and ring gears to convert it to a highway diff?
we dont have anything to exchange it here with in aus. over in NZ they put a cresta diff centre in it but ive never seen one of those here in aus.
i would snap up that 9" diff duel wheel job on ebay.. thats a pretty neat price if you ask me with a 9 inch you can change the centre/diff ratio yourself in an afternoon.. pretty handy:)
ben
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with the diff ratio? Can you just change the pinion and ring gears to convert it to a highway diff?
we dont have anything to exchange it here with in aus. over in NZ they put a cresta diff centre in it but ive never seen one of those here in aus.
i would snap up that 9" diff duel wheel job on ebay.. thats a pretty neat price if you ask me with a 9 inch you can change the centre/diff ratio yourself in an afternoon.. pretty handy:)
ben
The Cresta conversion only works on early model CFS diffs. The Cresta was sold in Australia as a 6 cyl sedan and ute. Parts were available. I had a diff converted when I put a 202 in place of the slant 4 in an early CFS.
The dual wheel diff is another story. There is nothing that fits straight in so the complete centre has to be replaced. Most common conversions were 9", Borg Warner and Salisbury. But there are problems with the splines on the axles. Bedford CFL axles are different to anything else. I had to get the side gears of a Borg Warner "broached" to fit the Bedford axles (read as expensive). With 9" conversion you will need new axles custom made (read as expensive). If the conversion wasn't done properly axles would break or the side wear out quickly. I have had both problems.
15 years ago a CFL diff conversion cost about $3500. I don't see it getting any cheaper. Also CFL diffs are desired when converting a Holden one tonner into a tow truck, so that diff on ebay is good value.
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The Cresta conversion only works on early model CFS diffs. The Cresta was sold in Australia as a 6 cyl sedan and ute. Parts were available. I had a diff converted when I put a 202 in place of the slant 4 in an early CFS.
The dual wheel diff is another story. There is nothing that fits straight in so the complete centre has to be replaced. Most common conversions were 9", Borg Warner and Salisbury. But there are problems with the splines on the axles. Bedford CFL axles are different to anything else. I had to get the side gears of a Borg Warner "broached" to fit the Bedford axles (read as expensive). With 9" conversion you will need new axles custom made (read as expensive). If the conversion wasn't done properly axles would break or the side wear out quickly. I have had both problems.
15 years ago a CFL diff conversion cost about $3500. I don't see it getting any cheaper. Also CFL diffs are desired when converting a Holden one tonner into a tow truck, so that diff on ebay is good value.
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The Cresta fits both these diffs..... not sure what the Mk2 diff looks like, these are both pre 81
(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=39082&g2_serialNumber=1)
(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=39086&g2_serialNumber=1)