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Technical => Driveline => Topic started by: vintageholden on September 10, 2011, 10:23:25 PM
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what booser are people using..
my brakes are stuffed all round...so much for new brakes
going hq diff and disks.
what booster to use,and does anyone have one for sale and photos please.
keith
0414066155
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hey Keith where using an XB falcon master cylinder.... LJ Torana brake booster..best to get it recod too b4 u put it in as we had to take it back out and get it done after we put it in ...we went the falcon xr6 disc brakes from hopper stoppers in Vic....we do have pics in our gallery on page five...
hope that helps
Wendy
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thanks i,ll have a look
like to keep it all holden,,LOL.
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you better get rid of all the bedford stuff on it then and rreplace it with a holden:)
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same thing to me..
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Can someone please post pics of the XB master/LJ Booster setup completed?
Thinking about going down this route with my disc brake front end on my LWB?
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ok ok here a few pics ;) hope it helps
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Wendy, under your bonnet is so clean and tidy! mine is a mess of wires hahah
I like that you have the booster support fitted, much better than not having one
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Wendy - much appreciated. Thanks! Jock
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My pleasure Jock! ahhh Matt the support was also for the clutch cable...the orginal hole was getting worn...so Ray decided to give it extra strengh. thanx for ur compliment on engine bay....many hours of hard sanding went into it...like the rest of the body...sanding ...sanding...more bloody sanding..then at the end ray said maybe we should have got it soda blasted might have been cheaper ! >:( i couldnt slapped him down ;D anyway it was a labour of love doing up my beddie!
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i was asked for measurments of our brake system...
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if u cannot read measurments
over all its 23.5 cms with no modifications to bonnet all fits under there nicly
from the fire wall to end of master cyclinder is 11cm
power bosster is 12.5 cm
wendy ;)
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Thanks heaps Wendy, I see the problem is my HQ master cylinder is 16.3cm long and causes all types of problems.
Will be changing it for an XB master cylinder.
Cheers,
Mike
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got mine from repco $200
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Do any of you guys who have done the torana/XB master cylinder remember how much the XB master cylinder cost you? A local brake mob is saying $320 for the cylinder and adapter? Does it need an adapter?
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Is your original bedford booster & master cylinder in good nick I left all the original there on my setup & it works great
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Repco.. Whatta rip off they are! Those kinda parts your better off sourcing from a brake distributor, I paid $150 from better brakes in cheltenham; I'm sure there would be a similar shops in other major cities. Anyways I got the lj booster xb master set up, works great. From memory I saw xb masters on evilbay for around the 180 mark, shop around, all those little savings add up.
Alex
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And no adaptor needed. Holes in firewall need to be elongated for booster and so do bolt holes on master. Easy done
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$200 was the cheepest new i could find
perth brake part etc wanted $235
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Do any of you guys who have done the torana/XB master cylinder remember how much the XB master cylinder cost you? A local brake mob is saying $320 for the cylinder and adapter? Does it need an adapter?
Hi ahh
Ray got the master cylinder at trade price for $180. doesnt need an adaptor.as it wont fit under the bonnet...all u need to do is elongate the two holes in the master cylinder and adjust the push rod in the booster shorter.
thats it!
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i have a brand new bedford brake booster if anyone wants it. $130
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just pricing on the net last night
Brand new Xb master cylinders $140
Lj torana booosters 2nd hand $40-80
need new brake pipes made up < $100
Pretty cheap conversion i reckon..
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Thanks guys.
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Great article on brakes from Hopper stoppers....a good read
http://www.hoppers.com.au/stoppin%20holden.htm (http://www.hoppers.com.au/stoppin%20holden.htm)
trying to work thru this quagmire of brake info......it has helped a lot
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Hows this for luck???
Found a Torana booster on ebay...bidding only....
day 1-contacted the owner...n asked if he had a but it now price
day 2-email-replied yes $130
day 3-me- sold ! can u give me bank deets so ican deposit..?
day 4-them- no bank deets ..i will put a buy it now on ebay for you..
day 5-me.goto ebay...ITEM SOLD!!!!!????? ..BUGA!!!! 8)
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is the lj booster used in any other car ?? the hq one looks the same
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Wendy,
Did you have to run new brake lines to the front and the rear or just the front?
Cheers
Jock
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Hi Jock ....we run new lines to both since we wanted them to last we thought it best...since our girl is 38 yrs old now..and we cleaned and wired brused then painted all under carrige...
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Hi Jock ....we run new lines to both since we wanted them to last we thought it best...since our girl is 38 yrs old now..and we cleaned and wired brused then painted all under carrige...
Nice one!
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:D i got a lj booster , paid nz$45 for it
so got both booster and master now .
now time to get what i need foe the powersteer ;D
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I got an LJ booster today too! Paid $50 for it. I also got a brand new XB master cylinder, $170 delivered. Brake upgrade here we come!
Now to find someone in Sydney to sell me some brake line and fittings etc...
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Im still on the brake mission for my LWB...
I undid my front n rear brake lines from my old brake setup
and took them to my local Brake place this afternoon
Pick up my Brake lines in the morning....wooohoo...
-next to re-drill the firewall to fit the
reconditioned LJ Booster with a re-sized Booster Pushrod..and Brand new Xb Master Cylinder
will bolt it all together n back on the road tomoro arv...gotta head to bRisvegas again!
Hey Jock...Love what you have done with your diff set up....
Im spewing I sold my Borg Warner diff out of my last SWB..had wanted to do exactly what you have done
nice work...will give you a nice track for your van..with nice width at the rear.. 8)
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Im still on the brake mission for my LWB...
'Mission' is the correct word mate! It's a lot of hunting and gathering but will be worth it.
I undid my front n rear brake lines from my old brake setup
and took them to my local Brake place this afternoon
Don't tell me you're getting the lines pre flared and bent and all you have to do is fit them? You lucky sod! I will be bending and flaring them myself...
-next to re-drill the firewall to fit the
reconditioned LJ Booster with a re-sized Booster Pushrod..and Brand new Xb Master Cylinder
I will get into that this weekend, tell me how much you cut off the push rod...
will bolt it all together n back on the road tomoro arv...gotta head to bRisvegas again!
If nothing goes wrong you should be right, hope the 'Beddy Gods' are on your side!
Hey Jock...Love what you have done with your diff set up....
Im spewing I sold my Borg Warner diff out of my last SWB..had wanted to do exactly what you have done
Never sell the Borgy! What diff are you running at the moment?
nice work...will give you a nice track for your van..with nice width at the rear.. 8)
I was originally a little concerned about width, thought it might not fill out the flares but once it was in it was bang on! Very happy with the width, should travel well when it's all finished.
Good luck with the brakes tomorrow mate.
Jock
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jock
that place i put u onto =berts brakes does the brake lines as well.
they are cheap as.
just take the old lines in or give them the sizes.
its not worth the drama doin them yourself.
plus there is warrantee if the brake place does them.
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jock
that place i put u onto =berts brakes does the brake lines as well.
they are cheap as.
just take the old lines in or give them the sizes.
its not worth the drama doin them yourself.
plus there is warrantee if the brake place does them.
Marty,
The problem I have is that the brake lines and the van are 4 hours away! A real challenge in this project! What I am currently doing is gathering all the bits and driving to the van, working on it for a couple of days then driving back to Sydney.
Will probably go back to Burts brakes this week and get all the other bits I need, flared nuts etc
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Hey jock ...
from memory was about 30-40mm i had cut off the Brake push rod...
Brake place did that for me too. 8)
Yep ..all i have to do is bolt em on.... ;D
Its a mission but will be great to finally have good brakes again..
Replaced my rear bearings today too...seals had busted and had oil pissing out all over my rear wheels.
.good for rustproofing ...not so good for braking..
is the 3rd time in 2 years though....deeep dish wheels an a banjo diff width..give them a punishing...
Any one got a swb Hwy diff? haha 8)
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If you guys have to cut/trim bits on old technology, why not do it to late model stuff.
my standard van is running the commodore booster combo, i just shortened the main rod that goes to pedal
custom van is running a toyota booster combo (might be windom) but I did recess that into the firewall a little (only to make it look cleaner).
Using newer stuff can be cheaper and better (for stopping), also easy to get. a lot of modern vans and cars are coming out with tiny set ups and powered by fast 4, V6, V8 of which all could out power a bedford in reverse
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is the 3rd time in 2 years though....deeep dish wheels an a banjo diff width..give them a punishing...
Any one got a swb Hwy diff? haha
ive been driving a van around fpr almost 12 months now with banjo, deep dish rims (10 x 15's).. no dramas yet. i hope you havent jinxed me marky!
i got a swb borg hwy diff. it needs some work. it leaks and got some noise at 90kms.
ben
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well its Done!!
finally bolted it all together today....and bled the brakes..STOPS!!! SWeeet....
-a Final note..
Mods u will need to do are.....
-Firewall holes had to be elongated to fit Torana Booster...
-XB Master Cylinder holes elongated to fit onto LJ Booster
-Brake Pushrod-(Plunger Function) had to be shortened by 30mm and retapped..
-new brake lines -from front to bedford T piece...
and Rears from Master Cylinder to Junction (half way along chassis rail)
-XB master has 2 Fr brake outlets.
1. needs to plugged.
2. the Brake fail switch hole-or put a dummy sensor in there or plug it up too
The whole Brake Mod
all up cost me bout $550..was quoted $900 for parts Stoked!!
happy now ..can finally move onto some body work for the ol gal..
Happy Vanning
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-XB master has 2 Fr brake outlets.
1. needs to plugged.
2. the Brake fail switch hole-or put a dummy sensor in there or plug it up too
Marky,
Why did you plug one of the FR brake outlets?
I think I am going to run one to each front wheel and only plug the brake fail switch.
Looks like Wendy only plugged the brake fail switch:
(http://www.buga.com.au/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3234.0;attach=6349;image)
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AHHH Jock I need to correct you when u said I did the brake thingy....it was really Ray ! he deserves the credit for the mechanical / modifications work ....im the one who did the undoing of parts, sanding of parts and body, did i mention sanding the body :P ??? cleaning and painting small bits etc....ray did the spraying...i choose the colour ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::) ::)
LOL ;) :D
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ive been driving a van around fpr almost 12 months now with banjo, deep dish rims (10 x 15's).. no dramas yet. i hope you havent jinxed me marky!
i got a swb borg hwy diff. it needs some work. it leaks and got some noise at 90kms.
ben
Forgot to mention 60 thousand Kms
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ah well thats a few kms