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Title: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: MaTTe on May 31, 2010, 01:32:24 PM
Hey fellas, i'm looking at fitting a kick down switch to my van, so the auto knows to drop a gear when i need to get thru a set of lights.
Does anyone have a photo of a standard bedford accelerator with a kick down switch(electric) fitted?

Also does anyone have one available to buy?

Cheers fellas
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on May 31, 2010, 02:52:50 PM
naughty naughty matte lol  ;D ;D if i had your van matte i would be sitting at all the lights and showing off. lol  ;D ;D ;D ::)
george
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: Merlin on May 31, 2010, 07:55:52 PM
hey Matte go buy one from a hj-wb holden they have the switch built in and they run a cable    cheers Neil
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: MaTTe on May 31, 2010, 08:04:30 PM
Neil, i had been thinking about the HJ-WB setups too, but i thought having a standard unit would be easier.. thinking about it tho, does a bedford unit run a cable or linkage as standard?

Anyway, i've found a switch sitting in grandad's shed that i should be able to make work, so i'll have at it look tomorro


George, there are times when it is safer to accelerate thru a set of lights than it is to slam on the brakes, and it is at these times that i'd rather the gearbox drop a gear than labouring the motor and driveline
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: ben on May 31, 2010, 09:39:17 PM
is it possible they didnt have one standard? cause ive never seen a standard looking one..

ben
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on June 01, 2010, 09:11:22 AM
I hate those lights that give you a second between orange and red, and they wonder why there are prangs. I was in the cruiser the other day and the orange was there a second, I hit the gas, and the growling V8 just made the line as it went red. If I didnt run the orange i would of landed in the center of the intersection. Here is a suggestion for those overpaid peanuts in traffic. I think the orange should come on as normal, but b4 going red, the orange should flash on and off for so many seconds b4 going red. That way when it goes steady orange you know you still have time untill it starts flashing, this would stop red light running, except for the hoons of course.
Just my opinion.
george.
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: hotrod on June 01, 2010, 08:53:41 PM
All traffic lights are set for a 4 seconds delay in a 60 k zone or 5 seconds for a 80 k zone.
http://www.police.qld.gov.au/Resources/Internet/programs/roadSafety/documents/redLightCamOffences.pdf (http://www.police.qld.gov.au/Resources/Internet/programs/roadSafety/documents/redLightCamOffences.pdf)
so unless the light is faulty in which case it needs to be reported, sorry dude but you mis-calculated
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: Warren on June 01, 2010, 11:28:46 PM
How is the government going to pay for all their swank parties...opps sorry election promises if us working stiffs dont donate our hard erned (via those pesky cameras).

Ive got Trapster  (http://www.trapster.com) on my Iphone works pretty damn good  ;D

Warren   
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: MaTTe on June 02, 2010, 12:39:08 AM
ben, you may well be right. Thinking about it, the diff gearing and the fact that the 202 is a few cylinders down on the v8s would mean the motor is revving higher in a standard bedford, so it probably doesn't need a kick down switch. I just figured being an auto it would *have* to have a kick down.. but maybe not.

hotrod, you're right. The cameras all have set delays, i think in WA it is 3 seconds for 60km/h and 5 seconds for 80km/h and above..

Warren, i've never heard of trapster, but i dont have an iphone so it's of little use to me unfortunately.. looks like i might have to upgrade over the next few years..


And for everyone else, especially those of you fretting over my delema, i have customised the switch i found yesterday, fitted it upto the accelerator, and wired it all up. I have made it adjustable too just incase i want it more or less intrusive. Doesn't look quite as nice as i originally planned, but i was working with limited resources and time this afternoon, but the result is just what i was after.
While i was at it, i also tightened up my accelerator pedal, so it now has no play in it. The van actually accelerates harder because 1/4 throttle before was only actually 1/8th throttle due to the play, so full throttle before wasn't really full throttle..  ;D
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: Warren on June 02, 2010, 12:50:47 PM
MaTTe

Doesnt have to be an Iphone, can be

iPhone
iPad
Android
Blackberry
Nokia
Windows Mobile
Palm

as well as Garmin & TomTom

You can also go online and directions for a trip and it will have all the known hazards listed.


Warren


Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: MaTTe on June 02, 2010, 06:10:29 PM
Sweet, i might look into this Trapster a little more indepth, should work on my nokia

An update on the kickdown switch.. It is amazing the difference. The van hauls ass if you need to get stuck into it. Well worth the effort!
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on June 03, 2010, 09:18:09 AM
hey matte, for us mechanical dunces, can you send us pickies. lol  ;D ;D ;D
george
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: Warren on June 03, 2010, 12:39:11 PM
Sweet, i might look into this Trapster a little more indepth, should work on my nokia

Just click on the Blue Trapster on my previous post and it will take you to the site - simple and easy to use, and you are part of the notification network - you see it, you report it - everyone gets to know, and can vote on the "validity" of a report.

Warren   
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: MaTTe on June 30, 2010, 11:40:01 PM
george, heres a pic of the kick down switch.
Its a bit bush mechanic in design, but works well.
I can't tell you where to get the switch, as i found it at my grandads, sitting in a bucket rusting out in the weather. works awesome ;)

(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=23195&g2_serialNumber=2)
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: ben on July 01, 2010, 08:48:36 AM
what does it hook up to on the trany matte?
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: delrazor on July 01, 2010, 09:24:51 AM
Hey Matte, i assume you have the later trimatic with the electronic kickdown on it???
I am about to embark on the same mission, so would love to see a pic or two.
Your pic isnt showin on my pc.
If its possible, my email is : derek@scooterlabs.net

cheers
derek
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: Rogue Trooper on July 01, 2010, 09:29:35 AM
There is an issue on the site where the picture doesn't show if it is linked from the Gallery. Just enter the Gallery from the Main Menu and then navigate back to the post and the picture should come up fine.
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: MaTTe on July 01, 2010, 11:52:34 PM
thanks rogue, it's funny the pics work for me and some others, but not everyone.

Ben, i have a turbo 400, so it just connects to the single pin on the side of the box. 12v from a power source to the kick down switch, then a wire from the other pin on the kick down going to the pin on the gearbox.

Turbo 350 uses cable instead of 12v

Trimatic uses cable or power depending on the box as far as im aware, you'd need to know for sure. but it's the same procedure, just gotta get a switch from the wreckers or auto store..

Mods, if you want you can move the thread into the technical section as it is no longer a wanted thread, more a learning curve ;)
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: Mark B on July 02, 2010, 10:51:56 AM
How can I check if my trimatic has this feature? can anyone post a pic of a trimatic with this?
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: MaTTe on July 02, 2010, 09:17:36 PM
mark, unless someone here has pictures, get onto oldholden.com and do a search, i'm sure they'll have something dedicated to the good ol' traumatic
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: Mark B on July 03, 2010, 06:02:23 PM
Cheers Matte  ;D
I'll give it a hoot...just wouldn't have a clue if mine does or not..
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: Warren on July 03, 2010, 10:22:38 PM
How can I check if my trimatic has this feature? can anyone post a pic of a trimatic with this?

Mark - on the drivers side of the box there is a round soleniod thing about the size of a small spray can lid with a round pin in the top/middle that takes the wire from the kick down circuit.

I will try and get a picture for you tommorrow.

Warren
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: Dano on July 03, 2010, 11:35:59 PM
I have a th 350 with cable will take some pics 2morro.... i have to pull my carbie off again, keeps filling up with shizenhouser.( changing filters and fitting a second) . hopefully the bstd will start :-\
Title: Re: Accellerator with kick down switch
Post by: Mark B on July 03, 2010, 11:40:48 PM
thanks lads - no hurry  :)
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