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Title: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: doofhard on November 25, 2009, 05:51:04 PM
400 chev 430+ odd Hp and lwb body with 9" diff.  shell does not have roof.   Talk to me my dogs vet bill was $3500 today engine alone was $4600 Scoty 0421302448
Title: Re: 400 chev puls llwb and 9"
Post by: westy12 on November 25, 2009, 08:34:29 PM
shit doof what did ur dog have a twisted stomach???! the things we do for our beloved pets eh? must be one kick ass dog!  hope its all better now. take it easy mate. west
Title: Re: 400 chev puls llwb and 9"
Post by: John Abbott on November 25, 2009, 10:29:50 PM
I was talking to one of our vet surgeons yesterday and she was taking a staffy cross out for a wee and she was telling me that so far the bill is $20,000 !!( No that isnt a typo) Big bucks hey? nice dog though....  :o ???
Title: Re: 400 chev puls llwb and 9"
Post by: Warren on November 25, 2009, 10:45:23 PM
I love my dogs, but putting myself into that sort of debt, or giving it the needle, well I know which one I would choose

Warren
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: doofhard on November 26, 2009, 05:11:27 AM
she had a cancer removed from above her eye and she also had an eye removed.  I'd do anything for her.
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: John Abbott on November 26, 2009, 08:16:44 AM
What breed of dog doof? :-\
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: mezzmo on November 26, 2009, 04:08:28 PM
Well done Doof, you cant buy that sort of loyalty and i know i would pay whatever i had to to fix my dogs if something went wrong.
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: doofhard on November 26, 2009, 05:12:03 PM
She's a border collie x kelpie and the best dog in the world.  I picked her up today and the poor girl looks terrible.  I hope she's feeling better and back to happy very soon.
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: doofhard on November 27, 2009, 07:35:54 PM
Had an offer for $2700 for the engine off ebay.  Tried to call him because i'd take $3k but no answer.
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: doofhard on November 29, 2009, 07:24:36 AM
Finally people are actually bidding on the engine not just over 50 people watching it
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: Marishka on November 30, 2009, 08:56:03 PM
$3500, i know its not the $4600 but at least thats the vet bill taken care of.
i bet she,s worth every penny of it bless her little heart.
whats her name scotty?
maybe u could post a picture of her up here for us,
i hope she,s gettin well :)

i know id sell my soul for my little girl.
my best friend in the world, my familiar
the fat little furry critter.

marty
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: doofhard on December 02, 2009, 04:12:07 PM
Gotta remember how to post a picture.  Yep happy it paid for the bill and even luckier that Dad said just to pay him back $3000 and I could keep $500.  She is doing real well results came back from what they took out and it had clean lines and low grade (which is good) she's almost acting normal.  So good to see the first 2 days of her home scared me.
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: mezzmo on December 02, 2009, 05:45:31 PM
Well done Doof - you wont regret it!
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: doofhard on December 02, 2009, 06:48:33 PM
(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=15819&g2_serialNumber=2)
After the operation(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=15821&g2_serialNumber=2)


Everything is going very well now she's acting crazy again and happy.
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: Marishka on December 02, 2009, 07:16:39 PM
i cant see the pictures Scotty, their just red x,s  for me
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: doofhard on December 03, 2009, 05:23:42 AM
I just linked them from my gallery.  I can see them
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: Rogue Trooper on December 03, 2009, 06:46:53 AM
I can't. I don't even get the red X's.
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: Marishka on December 03, 2009, 02:48:01 PM
i went into ur gallery and had a look then went back to the post and now their are there.
must need to go into the gallery to get them 2 link with the post as im on prepaid virgin broadband now, its a bit slow and drops out a lot but its heaps better than being tied into telstra, they gave me a free internet security to try for 2 months
(i never even used it) (or their linked email address@bogpong.com)
 but failed to let me know that after the free 2 months its mine for 2 years at $10 a month.  so i told them 2 shuv the lot.
so then they hit me with a canselation fee of $422.00 that i refused 2 pay till they added $15 per month so i paid it when it reached 2mths =$452.20
the B#$@%#$S W#$@$%S A##$%#@S hope they go broke.

far out Scotty the poor little girl. looks like it was a huge operation.
i feel so sorry for her and hope she gets well quickly and u guys have lots more good years together.

shows u love her heaps.
marty
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: doofhard on December 03, 2009, 04:56:28 PM
She is acting now only one week after the operation like nothing is wrong.  One more week before the all clear and the half bucket taken off and then it's beach time for her alot.  Her favourite place.  She is getting spilt rotten at the moment.  She's going to look real strange when all the hair grows back.  But still the best dog in the world
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: doofhard on January 02, 2010, 12:30:32 PM
Well i'm still having problems now with the engine.  It sold and the guy came and picked it up at abou 4pm on NYE I get a call from the guy who put in in the boat who says the engine is f***ed.

He says he got in in the boat fired it up and was cruzing at about 3500 RPM for about 10 minutes before it blew a head gasket.  Took off one of the heads and says says the bores are pitted and the reason the head gasket blew was they are after market heads and needed a hole punched to release vapor or something like that.  Also when some spark plugs are taken out water comes out of the hole.

Now I had the engine built some time ago and the only time it ever ran was on the dyno.  I have a friend that says maybe he did something wrong and took on water.  Also the possability that because it sat for so long and maybe already had water sitting inside due to the hole not being punched.

I can't get onto my engine builder at the moment becauause i'd like him to speak to them and know what he thinks.

The engine is now near shepperton so it a fair distance too.

I thought I was done with issues.
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: Marishka on January 02, 2010, 12:36:37 PM
id say it would have 2 be a warantee issue scotty,
 the hole shoulda been installed by the engine builder if it was 100% needed.

id get the guy 2 take the engine straight 2 your engine builder, unless its in a different state or 100,s of miles away.

id get the buyer 2 ring ur engine builder at least.

who in their right mind starts an engine without taking the heads n sump off 2 inspect if bought second hand for a start, even if it was a fresh engine id just pull it down that far to make sure 2 be sure.

bear in mind that ski boats also run near flat strap most the time,
was the motor built for flat strap, or just short bursts every now n then?

ski boat driver can be ruthless on motors.
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: Marishka on January 02, 2010, 03:55:33 PM
im nearly positive ud need 2 open up some water ports in the heads if fitting a motor 2 a ski boat.
was his water pickup sufficiant?
dosent take long for a motor 2 overheat if its not getting sufficiant cooling.
especially if its getting its ring reved out.

also are ski boats supposed 2 run thermistats?
or are they taken out to get the full flow?

id think no thermistat. maybe it was left in n cooked the motor?
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: John Abbott on January 02, 2010, 07:13:18 PM
Whenever i have sold anything to someone in good faith, i have always let them make the final dicission as to whether its what they want or not. If i was buying a motor from someone for a specific reason,and i didnt know its history i would get a engine builder to have a look at it first. If you sold it in good faith then the buyer takes responsibility once the cash has changed hands. You have to stand firm Doof   ;) Thats just my opinion folks.... :)
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: rossie on January 02, 2010, 07:42:52 PM
Something that happenedto me once, l sold a good engine(308), they fitted it, and there was heaps of crank case ventilation. So l pulled it dowm and reringed it, it done the same. We ended up finding out they changed the manifold (non polition and polition are diffrent). But it realy is hard to say without seeing the engine and with out fitting it. On the other hand, jt should of been picked up on the dyno if there was something wrong ::) :-[ :o :o
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: matty on January 03, 2010, 01:24:11 PM
I had the same issue when i first got into water skiing. my boat was a 16ft centre mount running a 308 holden motor. the issue i had was with the motor sitting at such steep angle (nose down) the air gets traped in the back of the heads (the highest point of a cooling system), no iternal changes needed to be made to the motor but I was told the water after running threw the block had to exit out the back of the heads therefore a hole needs to be made and tapped to fit a brass fitting (around the same size as a heater hose)
 
 I ended up tapping the manifold and running a small hose out the side to bleed the air out, it also let me know my water pump was working. I didnt run a thermistat but I have seen some boats with them,

 with out knowing much about the boat or the motor, its too hard to know exactly what happened
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: doofhard on January 04, 2010, 04:06:30 PM
This is the desciption that he has given ebay. 
The block has 5cracks,also has 2sleeves.Also looks to have 2different
brands of pistons. Heads dont have steam holes in them causing it to burn out head gasket in 10minutes.2of
the cylinder bores are extremely badly pitted.Motor was not rebored. Motor should not have been
assembled with bores that bad, causing the rings to chew out & not seal,causing motor to excessively
blowing out the breather & pushing oil out breather.The block is stuffed.Needs replacing.

My engine builder said today that he thinks he has ran it hard lean and hot
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: obsession on January 04, 2010, 05:31:29 PM
doof you sold it in good faith , then thats it im sorry but I agree with john , buyer beware ,and  Ihave been caught myself , had he pulled off the heads and found a problem before he put it in his boat then maybe id be more sympathetic , but crap happens.
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: rossie on January 04, 2010, 06:03:00 PM
doof you said you ran it on a dyno, did you get a print out?
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: doofhard on January 04, 2010, 07:21:11 PM
He has the video footage of it on the dyno.
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: Marishka on January 04, 2010, 08:33:53 PM
sounds sus, what did ur engine builder say about his ebay statment?
 check his other feedback.
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: doofhard on January 05, 2010, 04:02:15 PM
My engine builder think he flogged it too hard and ran it too lean.  Also won't speak to the guy who bought it anymore because he would ring up more than once a day every day asking questions.  My builder think he doesn't know what he's talking about and there is no way with the constant dyno results there was a problem.  His feedback is fine though.  Although the guy who bought it is not the person hassling me and my engine builder it's the guy who installed it in the boat.
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: Dano on January 06, 2010, 01:59:14 AM
hey Doof, sorry to hear your drama's brother but my opinion is the same as Johns/Craig's especially if there's a video of the dyno run, i also agree with your builder and the boys saying "run hot hard and lean" this engine was not built for a ski boat, and obviously has not been set up by any professional at all.Otherwise they would have been advised about the cooling requirements and been forwarned of the above . good luck mate, you have done no wrong in my opinion....Dano
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: Merlin on January 06, 2010, 02:29:12 AM
I  gotta agree with the boys on this one .firstly they purchased a second hand engine with no warrantee implied and aside from that no pro engine builder gives a warrantee on performance/race or off road engines anyway so dont stress bud you ve done no wrong in my book. thats just my 400 cents worth  ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: ben on January 06, 2010, 08:27:13 AM
Quote
This is the desciption that he has given ebay.
The block has 5cracks,also has 2sleeves.Also looks to have 2different
brands of pistons. Heads dont have steam holes in them causing it to burn out head gasket in 10minutes.2of
the cylinder bores are extremely badly pitted.Motor was not rebored. Motor should not have been
assembled with bores that bad, causing the rings to chew out & not seal,causing motor to excessively
blowing out the breather & pushing oil out breather.The block is stuffed.Needs replacing.

yeh this sounds real sus. the motor was perfect when it was on the dyno, now its got 5 cracks in it?????

just from all the information id say your right doofhard must have stuffed. whos to say he ran it for 10mins? he may have ran it for 2 hours??? if he doesnt know what he is doing im pretty sure he could do a lot of damage in 2 hours:.

yeh ive come to the same conclusion as others doofhard. you sold it in good faith. and i recon the blokes are trying to stiff you cause they stuffed up.

if you think the bloke who bought it off you is honest have to chatted to him about this? and what did he say? i suppose the other bloke could be pulling the wool over his eyes also if he is the guy who stuffed up.

ben
Title: Re: 400 chev plus lwb shell with 9"
Post by: doofhard on January 08, 2010, 03:11:22 PM
finally the constant phone calls have stopped I think he's given up
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