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Technical => Driveline => Topic started by: able on September 27, 2009, 09:07:16 PM
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my old bell housing had some weird set up for the clutch cable. im putting a better looking one that came off a 173 that had a m20 on it.
the old one looks like a backyard'er had made up the brackets and they used some farm fence wire to stabilize it.. (through the hole at the back of the block)
the 173 bell housing is more squarish (also has a square rectangular breather hole) and has a slightly different set up on the clutch mechanism where (sorry i don't know all the names) the ring with the bearing that gets pushed forward does not sit in a slot but has two bolts or pins that force it forward.
the main difference is that it has a inline hole built into it where the clutch cable would obviously pass through and be held instead of the contraption some one jerry rigged onto my old bell housing.
anyone with more experience (not hard ;D ) can give me a idea of what i will need for this obviously different set up?
i can take pics and post tomorrow if you cant get a clear picture from my ramblings.
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G'day
Thedre were 2 styles of clutch cable setup.
The early style was like a HQ Holden with linkages levered on the bellhousing and did look very homemade but was actually made by GMH.
The later style was a clutch cable through a holeat the edge of the bellhousing much like an early Commodore.
Needless to say the clutch cables are different.
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this was the old setup...
(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=14895&g2_serialNumber=2)
this is the new...
(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=14890&g2_serialNumber=2)
does this look like it is positioned correctly? it slides in and out fine.
(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=14905&g2_serialNumber=2)
and is their any reason to not use a second hand clutch if it was working fine before it was dismantled?
(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=14900&g2_serialNumber=2)
last but not least when i was taking of the old three speed from the old 186 bellhousing their was some sort of sheath that come out with it....
it was a cylinder about two inches long and the same diameter of the spline... it was ripped/distorted a bit and no good... any clues to what it was and where it sat?
it was almost like a sleeve
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Able
As chris said you have got both the old and new style there, I think the older one was that way to geat more leverage, the later one is a lot simpler.
The thrust bearing and the actuator arm look in the correct position, just check the actuator arm for any signs of wear and repair/replace if rerquired (have a look for a broken cable heavy clutch thread for more info)
There is no prblems re using the clutch so long as you keep it all as one package - clutch/pressure plate/flywheel.
As for the tube/cylinder - I got nuffink
Warren
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thanks warren and Chris!
the clutch is on the old 186 and i will have to remove it and install it on the 202.
i have a book and i bought a centering tool. as long as i go by the book and center it properly i should be able to remove it and reinstall it should i not? look pretty straight forward when looking at the book?
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hey mate, was the 2" circular shaft brass or similar?
I'm guessing you are talking about the spigot bearing.
It should sit in the back of the crankshaft and should be greased enough that the spigot slips in and out easily, but needs to be dry enough that it doesn't throw grease onto the flywheel.
For the cost of it, buy a new one, as it sounds that one is a little worse for wear..