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Title: Rear seats
Post by: Daza on August 23, 2009, 05:55:31 PM
Has any one put rear seat in their bedford.
When i get one i would like to try and deck it out with rear seat and a fold up bed area some how.
would love to see some pictures if any one has done this.
Thanks
Daza
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: Worzel on August 23, 2009, 07:17:33 PM
sold a roof rack to a guy who had rear seats.
got an eng cert for a bit of 60x60 angle across the pillars behind the side door with extra large washers. too easy
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: Marishka on August 23, 2009, 08:13:55 PM
be prepared to have rear windows if u want a rear seat.
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: Warren on August 23, 2009, 09:57:06 PM
Yes I have done it check in My gallery  (http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=8&g2_itemId=2616) for some pics

Warren

Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: able on August 23, 2009, 10:09:11 PM
be prepared to have rear windows if u want a rear seat.



what? are you trying to tell me they demand windows?

i have no windows and i don't want them! please tell me it isn't so!
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: Daza on August 23, 2009, 11:06:51 PM
Hey Warren are they in a SWB or LWB model and do you really have to put windows in the side to pass inspection
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: wraithknight on August 24, 2009, 05:57:07 AM
hey warren what are the seats out of as i want to do the same have a tribe of 6 and the kids love going for rides in the van

cheers mike
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: ben on August 24, 2009, 07:45:21 AM
its not much fun in the back with no windows. (unless you got dvd players hehe) no its not an inspection requirement as far as i know.

ben
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: able on August 24, 2009, 09:50:15 AM
its not much fun in the back with no windows. (unless you got dvd players hehe) no its not an inspection requirement as far as i know.

ben

thank god for that! yer ill put a dvd and lcd in for them.... as well as a camera set up on aux if they feel they need a window  ;D

my six kids spend most of their time pulling each others hair and generally beating the crap out of them selves for 90% of any car trips anyway.... i mean who needs windows when you can drop a elbow on your sister?

at least i wont have people betting on the ensuing violence at the lights.  ::).... ;D
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: Sundownernz on August 24, 2009, 10:22:27 AM
Hey Daza,

I have fitted seats into the back of my CFL. You can see a couple of pic in the NZ Van Nats album on the third page in the gallery. Easy to do if you don't want them to fold down into a bed. I was going to fold mine down originally but bought a pop top camper to tow around instead.

Best option for fold down ones if to get the mechanism out of those couches that fold down into a bed. I have a set at home that I was going to use in mine. Then build the rear seats like a couch and you should be right.

I'll post better pics of the seats in my van soon.

Cheers,
Garry. 
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: Marishka on August 24, 2009, 01:54:02 PM
its not much fun in the back with no windows. (unless you got dvd players hehe) no its not an inspection requirement as far as i know.

ben

it was in NSW last time i checked.
u might be lucky in your state, like with your roadworthy crts
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: Warren on August 24, 2009, 05:07:18 PM
Hey Warren are they in a SWB or LWB model and do you really have to put windows in the side to pass inspection

The van with the seats in is a SWB, they are out of a Ford Spectron, which was a rebadged Mazada I think.

There is a discusion on them elsewhere on the site, but put simply they were a easy add on, the only thing I would do different would be to narrow the wheel arches by about an inch at the top to allow for the rear seat, it fits but is a tight fit and makes getting at the leavers a bit hard.

Not sure on the windows thing - but the passangers apreciate them :D
 
Warren
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: wraithknight on August 24, 2009, 05:44:17 PM
thanks warren for that not sure if we get them over here  :o
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: able on August 24, 2009, 06:29:15 PM
i think the Mazda version was called "Mazda traveler".

i used to have one and it had the automatic one touch rotating middle seat.

i hear that their is seats out there with belts bolted onto the frames? in other words no need to add seat belt positions along your van for the four out side seats...

anyone got a clue what vehicle has these?
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: cfjeff on August 24, 2009, 07:10:55 PM
I used seats out of a toyota van, think it was like a master ace surf custom or something like that. The centre seats were single bucket seats with fold down arm rests and swivels, they also have seat belt anchors on the bases which take a standard metric seat belt bolt. So I fitted commodore lap belts to these and mounted them in the centre of my cf, the left one I remove and only install when I have six passengers. In the rear I fitted the front seats out of the toyota van. The van was about a 1987 jap import, there are still plenty of them on the road over here in NZ might be a bit hard to find in Aus as you guys don't import used jap vehicles. I liked the american style captians seats so much I went round the wreckers to find another pair for the front, which I found and purchased and fitted in place of my old front seats. Now when I drive my CF its like driving a large arm chair with a steering wheel. As to windows, due to complaints from passengers in the past, I have put in large american style custom windows during this rebuild of the van. Check out the build photos I have posted on the gallery under rebuilding the body. I also put in 4 lcd screens (2 8" folddown in the roof, 1 15" in the bar cabinet and a 7" in the dash), a dvd player and 2 camers (one facing foward and one facing rear). Just in case the view got boring for passengers. Now I don't get any complaints. Finished pics can be found on gallery page 3 nz nats album
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: John Abbott on August 24, 2009, 07:28:59 PM
Yep here ya go....2003 VH ford transit bus ...seatbelts incorporated into seat.
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa315/johnabbott_2007/IMG_0004.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa315/johnabbott_2007/IMG_0002.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa315/johnabbott_2007/IMG_0003.jpg)
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: wraithknight on August 24, 2009, 07:46:19 PM
and thats why i love this site so much information :D
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: cfjeff on August 24, 2009, 08:04:37 PM
Wraithknight, when we finally catchup face to face will have to see what seats you requie as our club secretary might still have some seats out at his farm in rangiora he is getting rid of all his seats that we got when a friend of mine closed down his wrecking yard a few years back, he was getting rid of them I don't know if he has got homes for them all yet or not.

Cheers Jeff
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: Daza on August 24, 2009, 08:10:54 PM
thats what i like rear swivel seats and you always need dvd players and xbox for the kids while driving. then if your bored with the other half she drives and you can get in the back with the kids and watch dvds while being driven around. oh what a life.(dream)
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: wraithknight on August 24, 2009, 08:37:11 PM
cheers jeff have you had a look at your site mate ive got pics up and have put some of my van up to hoping to get to the meeting next month
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: cfjeff on August 24, 2009, 08:46:18 PM
Cheers mike, have seen our culb site, now our other members can get a look at your project. Look foward to meeting you soon.

Cheers Jeff
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: able on August 24, 2009, 08:51:01 PM
thanks again John, now i just have to find a smashed up VH ford transit bus!

now where is that break adjustment tool ;D


ps. is their any law against having seats along the sides instead of the normal position?
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: rubman on August 25, 2009, 05:57:02 PM
go on ebay and search under VITO SEATS and try TRANSIT SEATS
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: Worzel on August 25, 2009, 07:21:14 PM
dunno if this helps or hinders or if it is already in the thread,,,, :o

Copies of Vehicle Standards Bulletin No. 5 “Installation of Additional Seats”, can be obtained from:
                               Department of Transport
                               Federal Office of Road Safety
                               GPO Box 594
                               CANBERRA ACT 2601
                               Telephone: (02) 6274 7111

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infrastructure.gov.au%2Froads%2Fvehicle_regulation%2Fbulletin%2Fpdf%2Fvsb_05_b.pdf&ei=V6yTSuXsFYye6gPm1eT7AQ&usg=AFQjCNHVDkedenf-PlfVCU23G3dQ_MY1EA&sig2=T1DvAxJlIo_7U01tAbpzcg (http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infrastructure.gov.au%2Froads%2Fvehicle_regulation%2Fbulletin%2Fpdf%2Fvsb_05_b.pdf&ei=V6yTSuXsFYye6gPm1eT7AQ&usg=AFQjCNHVDkedenf-PlfVCU23G3dQ_MY1EA&sig2=T1DvAxJlIo_7U01tAbpzcg)
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: kimbosound on August 26, 2009, 09:58:58 AM
thanks again John, now i just have to find a smashed up VH ford transit bus!

now where is that break adjustment tool ;D


ps. is their any law against having seats along the sides instead of the normal position?

I wouldn't think so....Toyota Lancruiser Troopies have seats along the side
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: Shazbot on September 04, 2009, 01:04:15 AM
My grey SWB came with a rear seat in there. It is in front of the bed and folds up and down. I did post pics here somewhere ???  When we got it registered here in WA we were told that the seat was illegal and we were not to use it. I told the guy that I use it as a barrier for my dogs. I fold it down and forward and they cannot get access to the front. We had to take the seat belts out, but was able to keep the seat for the barrier.
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: able on September 04, 2009, 01:35:20 AM
hmmmm i wonder sometimes what laws to follow.... we are on land and yet our courts are Admiralty law or commercial courts....

i remember writing the road traffic authority in geelong asking them about the law.... here is what i asked them...

Quote
can you supply me with any law under common law that requires me to have a license or registered vehicle under the following provisions.

if in fact the operator of the privately owned automobile is a flesh and blood human operator and any other flesh and blood humans are in fact guests and not paying for services to the operator and no cargo is being transported for profit.

i warn you for your own protection that misrepresenting a statute as a law is a criminal offense.


and the answer i got was...

Quote
Thank you for your inquiry to VicRoads regarding case law.

VicRoads is a Statutory Authority governed by Statute law and could point you to the relevent statute law if requested. While case law exists that provides interpretation of meaning of statute law, VicRoads is not the appropriate agency to provide case law studies. You should seek independent legal advice on this matter.


NOTE: Please do not reply to this email as the mailbox is unattended.


they don't seem to want to discuss legalities with me?   cant say i blame them ;D chicken sh*ts.
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: ben on September 04, 2009, 07:49:56 AM
good one shazbot!!


yeh i got a van regoed, they told me seat was illegal, so i took it out, after rego put it back in, it had been done all properly, got pulled over many a time and all the cops cared about was if it had seat belts or not??

cheers
ben
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: wraithknight on September 04, 2009, 07:54:03 AM
over here its all about how they have been put in and anchor points for th seat belts you have to have a cert for every thing aye
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: ben on September 04, 2009, 08:27:03 AM
yeh same here bro, supposed to have a cert for everything only thing is we dont get checked unless the vehicle changes hands:)

ben
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: Worzel on September 04, 2009, 08:47:13 AM


ps. is their any law against having seats along the sides instead of the normal position?

          NATIONAL CODE OF PRACTICE
   STANDARDS BULLETIN VSB 5B
CONSTRUCTION AND INSTALLATION OF
 ADDITIONAL SEATS BY INDIVIDUALS

    Issue 2.0 - Revision 1.0 - January 2004
      Supersedes document dated December 1996


Side-Facing Seats

Although side-facing seats may be fitted, front-facing and rear-facing seats are preferred because
they provide a higher level of safety.

Seats from an Existing Vehicle
A seat from another vehicle may be used as an additional seat in another vehicle, eg the bench
seat from the front of a sedan may be installed in a cargo van to provide an additional seat.
The seat must be attached to the vehicle with at least the same number and size of fasteners as in
the original installation.
Where the seat is installed on a supporting frame to increase the height of the seat above the
floor, the supporting frame must be constructed of rectangular hollow section not less than
25 mm x 25 mm x 2 mm. The construction, including bracing, must be as set out in Figures 4, 5
or 6, depending on the number of seating positions provided by the seat.


Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: Shazbot on September 04, 2009, 04:39:30 PM

some pictures of my backseat set up. We usually just fold the back down and this forms the base for the bed extension. Hubby is 6ft4 and needs the room!!! ;D
 
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n126/shazbot_02/insidebeddyseatup1.jpg)

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n126/shazbot_02/Backseatfolded1.jpg)

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n126/shazbot_02/Dogsinback.jpg)
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: westy12 on September 04, 2009, 07:24:41 PM
your dogs look gorgeous! i love german shepherds. i grew up with one, he was my best friend and it was so sad we had to put him down coz his hips gave out and he couldnt walk... saddest day in my life. hope yours have a long and healthy life!
take it easy. luke
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: Daza on September 04, 2009, 11:39:56 PM
I agree they are a great dog mine is 13 years old and she is the best dog i have ever had, Unfortunately her hips are giving out too but she has an easy life now and she is enjoying the rest of life lying around and being pampered by the whole family. 
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: John Abbott on September 05, 2009, 01:37:28 AM
There you go guys....Best type of antitheft devices you are ever gonna see.! Great dogs ;D
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: Shazbot on September 05, 2009, 11:36:50 AM
There you go guys....Best type of antitheft devices you are ever gonna see.! Great dogs ;D


yea, they'll lick you to death!!!!! hahaha  I get looks and comments for the van AND the dogs when I go out.

My male is 3 and my female is 2. She has hip dysplaysia, tho you would not know it the way she runs all over the place. I have a race track in my back yard complete with berms courtesy of these two!
Title: Re: Rear seats
Post by: John Abbott on September 05, 2009, 12:29:43 PM
Yeah my boy is starting to show some age now much like me! :D Going grey!!!
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa315/johnabbott_2007/Gothedockers.jpg)
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